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Fear of Excalibur - Still - 65 Years Later Author: David Griffin, Posted: Tue 06 May 2003 8:50 pm Subject: Fear of Excalibur - Still - 65 Years Later Just posted to ARS & ACT: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jontu" <thetaone@icehouse.net> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: Fear of Excalibur - still - 65 years later You wouldn't be throwing out all these various outpoints, alterations and lies in the below comm in order to give Ralph time to figure out what he's going to do about all the Excalibur materials going up at www.ronsorgusa.org would you? Ralph has certainly been spending a lot of time there lately, looking at everything Mike has begun putting up, in-fact, he was just in this morning reading it all again. Nice try guys, but your distraction is just that - a distraction. And that's about all it's good for, because no readers that you are actually worried about are going to believe what "bb" is throwing out below. It's too easy for any of those readers that you're worried about, to see through the false data, and it's too easy for them to find the truth for themselves - either through google searches, or any of the four websites, or www.fza.org It's those same readers that you're worried about (thanks for again letting us know that they're out there), that you just made even more clear for them what all this commotion from you guys and all your posting identities, is really about. You're afraid. David Griffin "basicbasic" news:7acb5afd.0305061448.6664a246@posting.google.com... > I've been involved with the McClaughreys efforts > on the net since they began. Their efforts have been to consistantly > attack those providing tech. > > Some see them as working with OSA. Despite the revelations that in > the last 2 weeks they've had contacts with COS, I still see them as > dupes. > Being used by OSA. After all they have many times asked for slander > and gossip about people in the Freezone on public newsgroups. So its > easy to send them material, source unknown, they say they keep sources > confidential, and even to send fabricated material. They could not > give source for attacks on Alan Walter , and eventually my pointing > out that per > Scn. justice PLs the accused should face the accuser, > persuaded Virginia to make a limp apology. > > Paul and Virginia have admitted they don't know the truth of their > latest slander against Ralph Hilton. > This has not stopped them posting it though! > > What a gift for OSA! > > They started with the "Theta group" spokeperson > "theta 8008". They published the criminal timetrack of the COS. This > may have mostly been taken from the > German freezone organisations website. > > http://www.freezone.de/english/overview.htm > > Mike McClaurghey took over from "theta 8008" > at times. This from private comm. When "Theta8008" > stopped posting ,with no goodbye, I asked Virginia where there leader > went. She said she didn't know. > This was years ago. Currently, there website states they are the > "Theta Group". > > My conclusion is that they have had a long time > hidden agenda, and have lied about the persona > "Theta 8008" I have no idea why. > > Their hidden agenda first surfaced on the now dead COSI list. > COS investigations, started by logic18, or as then > Confront. A wonderful forum until Virginia was given moderator status, > and Confront left. > > Apart from throwing off nearly everyone they > started to attack tech personnel. Notably Alan Walter, > Ralph Hilton, "Pilot", and Tommy Thompson. > > They said they would start a global tech programme > for all FZers. Like we at FZAOINT now do. Of course they having > jettisoned almost everyone, from 123 to > 15 members , it was no longer possible. > > During this latter period, Virginia posted on list > the slanderous accusations against Alan Walter. These got transferred > to more public groups like ACT. > > I tried to stop this fighting between those in the > Freezone, and asked all to stop. Virginia was the only one who > refused, despite Mike having agreed on her behalf to stop attacks. > > Time passed, at least a year. Then I was told that > someone was attacking Tech personel of FZAOINT, > on the FZA discussion boards. I visited, and > found that Virginia was indeed doing just that. > With Paul Misunias, owner of website. I of > course said they were bonkers and told the history of COSI. Ralph and > a couple of others made comments too. > > Paul had given Virginia Moderator status. She threw > people of the forum, and a blanket ban on all members of FZAOs was > instituted. Although only 4 or 5 > posted. > > Shortly afterwards, Paul, took the site down. > He is currantly blaming others for this action which is weird. He was > the only one who was able to do this, as he was webmaster. > > Since then the McClaurgheys and hangers on have > created a DIY GO. To investigate and attack primarily Freezone Tech > terminals. > > They visited tech personel, merely to state how bad they were. Ron's > Org Europe, and Rons org USA, led by > Marianne Hagen, Rey Robles etc. > > HCOB "Psychosis" > > " The apparent pattern of insane behaviour is to > come in (ask for processing, go on staff etc.) with the advertised > intention of being helped or helping, > then mess up iether as a PC or on post, then state how bad it all is > and then leave." > > Also note from HCOB "The Anti social personality..." > > "... the world is full of Martians or the FBI..." > For this crowd substitute "Marcabians". They > openly subscribe to this view. > > It is very clear that the communication from these people is only to > state how bad it is. And to > make wrong. Why,.....there website says ALL other > people are non standard. Only they have the correct tech!!! > > What a make wrong! > > I'll make some comments on Ralph. He is my auditor > and C/S. He is the finest tech terminal I have met. > > Russel Day, who featured prominently in the declaration of Mark P. > has been a client of Ralphs for many years. In fact he has just > recently returned > from further services. He has spoken to me of how, > with the help of Ralph's he has achieved every goal > he had, and is now looking for new ones. > > Ralph dosn't ask for success stories. Nevertheless people write > them. I've posted some. There are more that I know of. > > Ralph has for years been a last resort for those > who could be handled no where else. Or failed everywhere else. To some > extent he was doing this at flag. He's had 20 years experience since. > > There are only a handfull with this knowledge and expertise. > > bb |
