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Freezone Survivors Association Confused or Confusion?


Author:  misiunas
Posted:  Mon 28 Apr 2003 11:02 am 
Subject: Freezone Survivors Association: Confused or Confusion?

Sometimes, it can be extremely difficult to determine who, exactly, are one's friends, and who, exactly, are one's enemies.

There is an interesting web site at: http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/

The name that has been attached to that website is "Freezone Survivors Association", and even though there is some confusion about the term "Free Zone", there are a few pages that provide absolutely no confusion when it comes to a few people in the 'FreeZone' - namely Robert Ducharme and Tommy Thompson (along with a hint at Ralph Hilton).

The 'FreeZone' is out-tech and out-ethics. In other words, it's an accident waiting to happen. Don't let it happen to you.

Do it right the first time around.


Questions from the 'FreeZone' Survivors Association's FAQ, and MY answers:

Q: Can you trust current Church management?
A: The answer is quite simple and without justification - No.


Q: But Church services are too expensive, and the FZ offers them cheaper.
A: When ANYONE tries to BUY their freedom, they will get exactly what they pay for.


Q: Some people say that Bill Robertson was abused by the Church and that Robertson's "Galactic Patrol" was formed in alignment with LRH's intentions and was to save Scientology from management.
A: MANY people will say ANYTHING to further their OWN agenda. The truth is what it is - nothing more.


Q: Isn't it contrary to LRH's intentions for RTC to have the monopoly of the tech, as he would never have wanted the tech to be in the hands of one organization only?
Q: Did LRH really hand control over to RTC?
Q: The Church claims to be a religion but is it really a Church?
Q: Is the "Golden Age of Tech" really from LRH? What about the Golden Age of Tech drills?
Q: What happens to Sea Org members in the RPF? Aren't they being abused in the RPF?
Q: There is too much entheta on the Internet so some of it must be true?
Q: Did Mr. David Miscavige write a project entitled "Smash Squirrels"?
Q: It is said that LRH did not die in 1986 and that the real reasons of LRH's death were covered up. What's the truth about that?
Q: What about the Church's practice of "Fair Game"?

The simple answer to all of the above is: Propaganda.


When there is a lack of knowingness, a black hole becomes evident. Into that abyss, other people will gladly throw THEIR own data in an attempt to fill you up the 'right' way.

Knowingness only becomes evident when one reaches for it.

Spiritual freedom, which this is all about, requires TRUTH as it's operating basis.

In your search for Freedom, don't forget that TRUTH will only be revealed by finding out for yourself what IS - not what someone else TELLS you that IS.

And all the court cases, declarations, bulletins and policies in the universe won't make one bit of difference. Truth is never justified - it is, after all, just the plain and simple TRUTH.

Paul


Author:  Virginia McClaughry
Posted:  Mon 28 Apr 2003 5:47 pm 
Subject:

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Man..are we tracking or what...

Your posts on this (which I am reading after my post is already in process), are following the same things I noticed...the FAQ page etc.

Harmony.

I love it!

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Anyways...like we said to someone fairly recently...ONLY the truth will "handle" us, period, end of story.

I'm thinking..someone doesn't quite "get" that yet...

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Quote from Braveheart:

"We shall have to remedy that.."

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Virginia


Author:  Virginia McClaughry
Posted:  Mon 28 Apr 2003 5:55 pm 
Subject:

Paul Said:

"The name that has been attached to that website is "Freezone Survivors Association", and even though there is some confusion about the term "Free Zone", there are a few pages that provide absolutely no confusion when it comes to a few people in the 'FreeZone' - namely Robert Ducharme and Tommy Thompson (along with a hint at Ralph Hilton)."

Yea..gotta use a little truth to bait the trap, right?

Let me guess..since we have for a long time, been pointing out the False Bridges and squirreliness of Tommy, Ralph etc., now someone will try and use this site as "proof" that since we also point out the truth of the squirrels in the "freezone", therefore thusly we are OSA.

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Obviously somebodies have got their panties in a twist again about us, but really now, THIS is what they came up with as a "handling"?

And also..another guess.. icon_wink.gif Ralph and Tommy and assorted posting identities, (after their same level operatives in the Church/Government put up this "attack"), will later offer this up as "proof" that they "must be doing something right to be being attacked"?

Note: for the "guys":

Say it ain't so...go ahead guys...MAKE ME WRONG!

You know you want to...

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Virginia

P.S. Bonus for the "guys":

This whole Freezone survivor's association thing is as stupid as the "Barbara Schwarz" op trying to do some lame*** parallel of...well you know.

I know you were waiting for an ack on noticing that little creation, so there ya go. Start the Schwarz attack now..Get that **** Virginia..

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Thetans are so funny some times, ya gotta love 'em.

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Author:  misiunas
Posted:  Mon 28 Apr 2003 6:49 pm 
Subject:

Virginia wrote:
...ONLY the truth will "handle" us, period, end of story.
What a simple 'little' thing - truth.


I can only imagine what a thetan looks like with their panties in a twist.

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Bait: icon_rolleyes.gif

Paul


Author:  Virginia McClaughry
Posted:  Mon 28 Apr 2003 7:45 pm 
Subject:

My post on the Freezone Survivor subject (also put in data collection)


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The Freezone Survivors Association, yet another op to confuse and obfuscate.


Ralph Hilton posted the following link as part of his post New attack on FZ:

Headers only:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hilton" <ralph@fzint.org>
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:13 PM
Subject: New attack on FZ
--

Link from within the post:


http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/

This page heralds itself as being the site of "The Freezone Survivors Association".

Note the pushing together in the above name, of the term Free Zone to Freezone, which as to receiving services from people such as Ralph Hilton, Rons org EU, Alan Walter, Robert Ducharme etc., the positioning of them as Freezone, an altered and squirreled term and meaning which has come to self-associate with squirrel or altered Scientology/False Bridges, is actually accurate.

But...in the text intro on the page, there is the following statement:

"We are survivors of what is sometimes referred to as the Free Zone. The anguish, frustrations and trouble we experienced are not only worth sharing with others, but worth publishing as a warning to others who may believe that they will find there what they are hoping for."

Note the regeneralization and positioning back the OTHER way of that the correct term Free Zone, is something that can be survived. Indicating that the Free Zone, is bad, that it's squirrel etc.

This is a lie, and is ergo Black Propaganda.

Of course exactly what makes it Black Propaganda and NOT Black Public Relations as it tries to be, (not very successfully), is that it is a LIE.

This is a violation of the Public Relations technology contained in the management series by the person who wrote this who is presumably "back in the church" and a "good or on-source scientologist", but yet they are practicing Black Propaganda, and violating LRH materials on the subject of Public Relations.

To correctly apply Black Public Relations, or ANY Public Relations, basically per LRH sticking to the truth is the only safe way to go. Such as only paint something as black that IS black.

The Free Zone, as decreed in:

http://fza.org/fzdecree.php#fz

"Official Decree - Galactic Grand Council


The planet known as Teegeeack - local dialect "Earth" or Terra - Sun 12, Sector 9, is hereby declared a Free Zone.


No political interference in its affairs from any other part of the Sector or Galaxy will be tolerated.


No economic interference in its affairs will be tolerated from any non-planetary agency or power.


All of its inhabitants are hereby declared Free Zone Citizens and free of external political or economic interference.


The regulating agency of this decree is the Galactic Patrol Sector 9, Sector Commander Elron Elray and his designated representatives.


The planet is henceforth under the Sole Auspices of the Galactic Patrol, Sector 9, for coordination with Galactic and Sector Affairs and for compliance with this decree.


The Technical and Ethical experiments in progress on Teegeeack are not affected by this decree and are to continue under the auspices of the Galactic Patrol, Sector9.


This Decree is issued by unanimous vote of the Grand Council."


decree issued by:

"GRAND COUNCIL CHAIRMAN
FOR ALL MEMBERS
SECTOR 0 GALAXY 1"
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Note that there is nothing in this decree about the Free Zone, being related to Pseudo-Scientology activities characterized by Ralph and others as the "freezone".



"The definition of a Free Zone Planet is: "One that may choose its own political or economic affiliation or choose to remain independent and represented thusly in the Grand Council. Such choices to be made in suitable referendum of its populations after representative chosen leaders of the various subgroups of its populations have engaged in free testimony and discussion of the merits and shortcomings of each proposed course of action. The planet shall remain Free Zone until such referendum is correctly and ethically held. A free Zone Planet is under the auspices of the Galactic Patrol Authority of the Sector in which it is situated, their authority limited to their purpose and the definition herein stated."

The purpose of the Galactic Patrol is:


"TO GUARANTEE THAT CIVILIZATION CONTINUES TO FLOURISH AND PROSPER WITHOUT DISTURBANCE WHILE ALLOWING THE GREATEST POSSIBLE FREEDOM TO THE INDIVIDUAL". "




Captain Bill Robertson also wrote:

"There are many viewpoints of the Galactic Patrol, Gentlemen.

One is that it is a police organization. Another is that it is a war force or space army, navy and air force combined. In actuality its purpose is: TO GUARANTEE THAT CIVILIZATION CONTINUES TO FLOURISH AND PROSPER WITHOUT DISTURBANCE WHILE ALLOWING THE GREATEST POSSIBLE FREEDOM TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
[ref: http://fza.org/doc1377.html]"



A post by Paul today:

http://fza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=390

Mark Percy and Ralph Hilton

Author: Paul Misiunas
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:13 am

Mark Percy wrote:
I have seen alcoholism, "auditing" whilst hung over...
[ref: http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/mp.html]


I know of only one person in the 'FreeZone' that has an issue with alcohol and that is Ralph Hilton.

(See Ralph's Timeline at http://fza.org/tt.php)

Paul

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Now, let's review the FAQ page of this angelfire Freezone Survivor's Association site:

http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/faq.html

Q: Can you trust current Church management?
A: In short, the answer is: yes. It is a common claim in the Free Zone that there is something wrong with Church management and that it has diverged from what LRH taught. Well, the ultimate test of any management is whether it has resulted in expansion.

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Black Propaganda answer, lie that it is a "claim" that Church Management has diverged from what LRH taught.


Note the use of White Public Relations, that is actually Black Propaganda (see my post on that), as well as outright Black Propaganda (lies), in the rest of the answer to the above question. Quite a mixed bag of PR and Intelligence techniques this is.


"
Q: But Church services are too expensive, and the FZ offers them cheaper.

A: The money that is donated to services goes towards the religious and social reform programs of the Church. Even the U.S. government admitted that when they found Scientology tax-exempt.

It also costs money to fight for religious freedom in Germany in the courts, as we are having to do.

Documents which show this:

1. "What your donations buy" by LRH

2. Declaration of Frank Flinn

3. HCO PL 23 May 1965 Rebates"


This is a no answer answer. Doesn't actually address it's own point raised.






"Q: Some people say that Bill Robertson was abused by the Church and that Robertson's "Galactic Patrol" was formed in alignment with LRH's intentions and was to save Scientology from management.

A: Bill Robertson was just another squirrel."


My personal favorite...

Total avoidance of answering their own question raised, not to mention that the "question" contains Black Propaganda.

Number one, Bill Robertson was made a Captain of the Sea Org, BY LRH. So one assume that those currently running the Church think they have the authority to override that, hence the deliberate omission of the term Captain.

That cracks me up!

Not to mention that CBR was given a Kha Khan status by LRH, which NOONE can undo, least of all the enslavers in the taken over Church.

Next...the Galactic Patrol is NOT Captain Bill's "creation" as the Black Propaganda in the form of a question implies.

See above refs as to what the Galactic Patrol is, as well as see my post on what the Sea Org symbol put in use by LRH, actually means, and is patterned after. A Galactic organization.

Another example of off-sourceness of a supposedly (my term) Born-Again "scientologist".

In the height of hypocrisy, in the 1980's, the enslavers in the taken over Church had the audacity to "declare" The Galactic Patrol, as being a suppressive group.

That's another one that cracks me up, the complete idiocy of that particular move.


The rest of the FAQ is pretty much more of the same..Black Propaganda mixed with some assorted Public Relation tactics.

Similar to points Marina tried to raise in the the debate I basically won in the end, with her then having to try and bribe me essentially.

These type of Propaganda "handlings" would only work on someone who is still PTS and continuously violating their code of honor.

Perfect "marks" by their own choice, in other words.

Some people enjoy being "marks" which is why they would even have STAYED to get so messed up, on any of the always capable of being found out false bridge promoters in the taken over "freezone".

If I can navigate through both the Church and various assorted "ism's" in the "freezone", INCLUDING CBR's now corrupted and taken over organization RONS org...so can anyone else who has the integrity and self-respect to do so.

It simply says a lot about the Scientologists so "victimized", that they run from a false bridge, to another false bridge, and then back to the first false bridge again.

Like...hamsters in a hamster wheel, the only way off is to confront what is.

Exactly what ALL the various both sides and the middle factions DO NOT WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.

By all the factions I mean: Critics, "EXIT COUNSELORS/deprogrammers", "Former" Scientologists, "Scientologists" that don't know that what they think is Scientology isn't who are still in the church, "Freezoner's" of every flavor, RONS org, etc. etc. etc.

It only takes one, to break the stranglehold of "options" that lead nowhere, and one leads to another, and another and another.

And worse from those factions viewpoint?

People like me, will find others, and then they work together. Horrifying thought, there's TWO of them?

EEK!

(laughing out loud)


The truth is all the power there ever was, and it is unstoppable.

If some out there in the "freezone", are so fascinated by "power" (like Alan C. Walter for example), they, like he, might try the truth, instead of collecting up beings in some misguided quest for "safety" in numbers.

But first..he and others like him, will have to overcome their terrors.

We shall do our best to make the environment safer for such to reach for that first rung of the ladder out, INCLUDING those in the Church working so hard to "bait and switch" the only real ladder out.

The way out is the way through, and that's the truth.

So...here's to Ralph overcoming his fear of that black area of his space where all the charge is on terrible things that have happened to him, here's to Alan overcoming his fear that he will have to face what he has shrunk to, and that he is still just as alone and afraid as he ever was, and really.....here's to all thetans overcoming their fears and allowing themselves to Be Free again.

Best,


Virginia McClaughry


Author:  Virginia McClaughry
Posted:  Tue 29 Apr 2003 8:05 pm 
Subject: What the Agents DON'T want to talk about....

Well everyone,

Yesterday I posted the thread: http://www.fza.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389

onto both newsgroups.

In that thread I said this:

Virginia McClaughry
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Location: Post Falls, Idaho
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 2:55 pm Post subject:

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Paul Said:

"The name that has been attached to that website is "Freezone Survivors Association", and even though there is some confusion about the term "Free Zone", there are a few pages that provide absolutely no confusion when it comes to a few people in the 'FreeZone' - namely Robert Ducharme and Tommy Thompson (along with a hint at Ralph Hilton)."

Yea..gotta use a little truth to bait the trap, right?

Let me guess..since we have for a long time, been pointing out the False Bridges and squirreliness of Tommy, Ralph etc., now someone will try and use this site as "proof" that since we also point out the truth of the squirrels in the "freezone", therefore thusly we are OSA.



Obviously somebodies have got their panties in a twist again about us, but really now, THIS is what they came up with as a "handling"?

And also..another guess.. Ralph and Tommy and assorted posting identities, (after their same level operatives in the Church/Government put up this "attack"), will later offer this up as "proof" that they "must be doing something right to be being attacked"?

Note: for the "guys":

Say it ain't so...go ahead guys...MAKE ME WRONG!

You know you want to...



Virginia

P.S. Bonus for the "guys":

This whole Freezone survivor's association thing is as stupid as the "Barbara Schwarz" op trying to do some lame*** parallel of...well you know.

I know you were waiting for an ack on noticing that little creation, so there ya go. Start the Schwarz attack now..Get that **** Virginia..



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The "guys" apparently couldn't resist, and just had to "go there". Especially on the "Barbara Schwarz" thing.

There are a couple of posts that I did on the newsgroups that cover the initial reactions by different posting identities.

Headers:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virginia" <vmcc@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: This is great...The agents go fishing and end up fished!


and

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virginia" <vmcc@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:51 AM
Subject: My god-the agents really fell hard for this..
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It took a while for the real "Barbara Schwarz" attacks to come, ie: attacks from that posting identity directly-see the posts I did for the responses.

I think that the"guys" wish me to engage their computer creation, so they can see how their personality profile model holds up.

I think I could save them a lot of work here.

The profile is off. As usual.

It looks like (looks like mind you) that "Barbara Schwarz" is somewhat a very loosely attempted caricature of me.

There are a lot of points in the posts observed by not only myself, but others as well, privately, that are pretty obviously meant to be a badly done parallel.

It is thought that the reasoning for doing so, is to try and adjust what is thought to be important to me, ie: "PR image", which is the first mistake. It is not important.

Judging from (amongst other things), what I have been seeing communication wise, the work, writings, products etc., that I, and others have been putting out, are a problem for some.

For over a year now there have been various "itsa's" and "labels" trying to figure out how to "bring me down".

This has gone on on EVERY communication line that could be possibly thought to be used.

It hasn't worked.

I know it, and the "guys" know it.

As I said, the real predicted beginning "Barbara Schwarz" attacks started showing up. These are designed to "get me to interact" with that posting identity.

Statements have been worded in such a way as to be the complete opposite of the truth in some cases, so that I would "correct" the person.

This is an OLD profiling staple that the "guys" think is accurate. It is not.

Now..what is REALLY going on with all this, is a knee-jerk reaction on the part of the "guys" (agents of all VAB levels) to try and slow down, or stop, some other things that you don't see mentioned by ANY of their agents.

(of course now, perhaps in their usual stimulus-response status button way-they will HAVE to respond-we shall see)

"Little" Things such as:

The fact that it is now proven, by LRH quotes, (not designated confidential no less), that the case (entities) is organized, and that there IS a main, senior being, and that that being is the top one, and is who primarily holds trapped, all the other beings.

It is proven by posted LRH quotes that several techniques for Psychic Warfare, Control and Influencing, forcibly exteriorizing a being for other purposes, techniques that could be used to mess up the being etc., were known over 50 years ago, and that these same techniques HAVE been used variously by various government factions, the taken over Church, and the "freezone" (not to be confused with The Free Zone).

It has been proven that LRH knew all about the entities LONG before David Mayo supposedly "came up with" Nots to "handle LRH". Of course, if David Mayo was such a true tech maven, why did he, along with every other supposed major tech terminal in or out of the Church, "miss" some of the most key points to the entities and their relationships.

Because they "had to".

And..LRH knew it, and let them think they had him right where they wanted him. It certainly told him who were really his friends, and who were thetans ready to stand on their own two feet...real quick.

As it turns out, even Joe Harrington knew about what really happened, and tried very hard in the early to mid 1990's to "pull out" by numerous, numerous, different angles, anyone else who might also know anything about what really happened.

You could say... it was his job.

It is really, really, revealing, that not ONE so-called critic, "lover of the tech" etc. etc. has even TOUCHED any of the above posts, concepts, etc. etc.

Worse...it has been proven that The Freezone Bible Association, while under a cover of "making the tech available" deliberately tried to obfuscate this very material, in a rather interesting way involving the use of the accompanying booklet to the course, as a point that was used to essentially make "not there" LRH's material on entities.

It appears that at a minimum Lone Ranger, Ralph Hilton, and Homer Wilson Smith are all involved in The Freezone Bible Association in one capacity or another.

And this means...that REGARDLESS of whoever is involved, whoever was involved with that particular little maneuver to "hide" in plain view the actual data that IS THERE, has the exact same agenda as has been put against LRH and Scientology since Day 1.

By their actions you shall know them..

Continuing on with things that are NOT talked about by the agents:

There is the Excalibur course that is just about ready to be released, which will contain all of the above data.

There is the relationship of the GO, and certain key terminals in it, to certain events with the Hubbard Association of Scientologists, International.

There are the Black Operations, just beginning to be documented in posts, on both my daughters, Lisa and Charlene, as well as my father.

Black Ops on David (such as The Boutique, Bruchi's etc.) as to employment.

Black Ops in the form of "phone calls" (witness Redfred's call last night touching right on the subject of The Boutique), Black Ops re: David's mother and sister,

Black Ops such as William Freudenwald already well documented.

Black ops such as "Films Backward" or whatever it was that was another phone call over a year ago.

Black Ops continuously in the form of "people" seeking auditors, in emails. One for one, with very few exceptions, these never make it past about 1 or 2 responses without showing their real agenda.

Black ops such as phone calls from "george Rasmussen", or some guy "asking about Tommy Thompson".

As a side note, these calls are pretty much always from cell phones, which is rather interesting, I think.

Black ops in the form of attempted subversion of Paul and I's comm line, this has happened NUMEROUS times by different "people".

Black Ops in the form of certain documented firewall hits-trying to either access my computer or simply just cause dev-t.

Black Ops recently in the form of trying to knock down Paul's site by a programmed repeated ad infinitum running around accesses by different IPs, strongly observed to be Ralph and buds.

One of the longest running Black Ops is to try, and try again, to get us to deliver. Basically ANYTHING other than what we are doing.

This one has a LONG list of participants, even up to and including Janet Lee, Brendan's mother who blew from here over a year ago.

Black Ops Salee Amina Mohammed, of whom the full story and documentation, has had only the tip of the iceberg publically posted.

Black ops "Hunter Barnes" Salee's supposed son, who tried to get in with my son Tom, and with Michael privately, as well as the later totally ridiculous posts and "hunter mailing list" little op that went flat.

Black ops on both newsgroups, complete with numerous identities which are very much governed by the black use of the Data Series, something Ralph Hilton professes more or less, to be expert in.

Ie: the generation of outpoints meant to confuse the "trail". There are many ways this is done, such as:

1. having more than one person "use" a posting identity-altering source

2. having more than one ip go "on" or "off" with a posting identity-such as the "dustwalker" posting identity-again altering source

3. Picking up phone numbers and identities of real people, and either arranging for them to be used, or simply using them. When called on not being a real person, this is the handling that is often used. It is possible this relates to the preponderance of cell phones used to call us.

4. Mixing in with all the above, are actual real people, such as Ralph,
Alan, etc. Ralph is probably one of the biggest contributors to the above scenarios however. He has been involved with the posting identity "John" who he "used" as the reason for "taking down the FZINT board". Ralph has used other posting identities, as well as sets up (with the help of others sometimes) the whole anonymizing system for all the not wanted to be traced identities to go through. This is then "covered" with all this rigamarole about free speech etc. primarily by Homer who has this whole persona that he likes to present that is NOT, repeat NOT, who he really is. It is an ACT.

5. Altering sequences on posts, ie: pulling out a response by making a new post of it so that it doesn't file in the right place in google archives.

6. putting a reaction to one post, over onto a completely different thread (this was RAMPANT on the old old fza board), especially by posting identities associated with the rsey little enclave of Ralph, Marianne, etc. etc.

7. Altering time, generating dev-t on purpose, such as Phil Scott has spent quite a long time doing.

8. Creating whole personalities (such as in building a personality profile model) that then "post"-quite a few examples of this.

9. When caught, generate "corroborated" stories, or the opposite of that, ie: have one "guy" be the scapegoat. Such as Paul Matulef I believe it was who said "I'm just a guy with a computer and an opinion."

"Barbara Schwarz" is just the latest in a long line of COINTELPRO-like attempts to find some way of making a difference. Ie: as per my post on information warfare..

"any difference that makes a difference"

Continuing with the Black Ops..

Black Ops such as the supposedly hard mailed "RON's Org Questionnaire".

Black Ops such as people trying to represent themselves as being Mo Budlong, or Dick Weigand, to try and have us do something on ANOTHER line in response. Use of ARC parallels. That one has happened three times now.

The Church coming through other lines, to try and "parley", never directly.

Although, they came pretty close to it recently.

They don't seem to get that we are not in propitiation, we are perfectly willing to talk to them, but ONLY when the truth is on the table. The WHOLE truth, not any form of "bait and switch" on it.

Black Ops in the form of attacks on Mike's domains.

Black OPs in the form of supposed legal threats re Luis Srybnik and Sector Ops bulletin 16.

WAY too many outpoints making that one have a definite not realness. This despite numerous uses of various mechanics to have it appear to be real. The source for that particular attack is in New Jersey apparently.

Black ops in the form of what looks to be tapped phone lines, as well as satellite and/or some sort of ground surveillance, that "redfred", and some others apparently have access to, but want to disabuse, laugh off, distract and or invent explanations for.

Numerous examples fully documented (but not posted yet). Except for one one the examples dealing with "redfred", that has been now made known.

Black Ops in the form of Wraiths, sent clusters, sent creations of whatever kind, this is pretty consistent, although for me it has dropped off significantly because most of the people who do this sort of thing, don't like having to deal with me, basically.

Black Ops in the form of interrupted sleep, (shifted biorhytms), manipulated various body things, LOUD psychotronics that practically knocks your hearing out until some newbie figures out how to adjust the level down to "unheard" supposedly.

ALL of the above have failed ultimately, and make no mistake, THAT IS KNOWN.

And the bottom line is, that's quite often what is really driving the "reactions" or newest form of op. Ie: that there has been some failure in some quarter (towards us), and some success on our part, and that just can't happen, is the viewpoint of the "guys".

It also forces their own TA's to start moving, since we are holding a position that they themselves gave up on, and gave in to suppression, however long ago.

We know this, and we understand the discomfort, but it is nothing that we ourselves have not faced, and overcome, and so can they.

So...when you see things like "barbara schwarz" appear, or "The Freezone Survivor's Association", etc. etc. know that this is ALWAYS a response to something going RIGHT in the Freedom for all Beings game.

ALWAYS.

The TA is moving....

Virginia McClaughry