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"curious about" Author: David Griffin, Posted: Tue 24 Sep 2002 2:59 am Subject: "curious about" From the Talk.FZA forum: 1 Flew Over registered on 06 Nov 01 curious about... registered on 08 Nov 01 curious about ... Posted: 2001-11-20 14:09 ---------------------------------------------------- "Non E writeup I am the being who has gone by the names 1 flew over, Curious About... and The sexy virtual Freezone babe. ...I am working on my next action, which will be Excalibur. My last audited session (last month) was with Marianne Hagen of Ron's Org." ============================================================ Here is part of a post previously done by Virginia: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia" <vmcc@icehouse.net> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: From TALK FZA-a post about more rough IP associations Identities: 1 Flew Over,1 flew over, The Tecfairy, Eunice the librarian, post using this EXACT IP as well. 24.4.255.76 Canonical name: proxy3-external.sttln1.wa.home.com @Home Network (NETBLK-ATHOME) 450 Broadway Street Redwood City, CA 94063 (Notice in the above proxy3 traces to Seattle, Washington) 1 Flew Over Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 09:10 am ---------------------------------------------------- "Marianne is very highly trained, highly audited, her own person and one powerful being. She is able to handle what may come her way. Even if the Freezone site collapses she and Vast will still carry on with their work." 1 Flew Over Monday, January 21, 2002 - 06:44 am ---------------------------------------------------- "...Virginia was not supported or condoned by Vast or Marianne of RONS Org USA. They are not the controllers of the FZA site. She never actually did the RONS Org training or processing she claimed. She is not a product of that tech... The training and tech are dirt cheap by comparison and safe if followed and CSed by Marianne." ============================================================ Here is an excerpt from a post I did: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jontu" <thetaone@icehouse.net> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Info on 1 Flew Over and Curious About... 1 Flew Over Friday, April 05, 2002 - 08:28 pm ---------------------------------------------------- "There was a thread on the old FZA board where someone was looking for all the sexy freezone babes were, so I joined in as a virtual sexy freezone babe. (highly flirtatious I might add) That was back when we didn't take much of this overly serious. No, I'm afraid I'm a dirty old man playing with viewpoints." It would appear so. 1 Flew Over curious about... The sexy virtual Freezone babe The Tecfairy Eunice the librarian And this person, whoever it is, is intimately connected to Marianne Hagen of RONS Org US, supports her, and has been receiving auditing from her. Also from Virginia's post above, additional IP accounts and addresses used by Curious About... 12.91.3.89 Canonical name: 89.cambridge-08-09rs.ma.dial-access.att.net AT&T ITS (NET-ATT) 200 Laurel Avenue South Middletown, NJ 07748 (matches freethought^2 IP nbr 6) This means that apparently freethought^2 used exactly the same IP address at some point. 64.158.169.26 Canonical name: dialup-64.158.169.26.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net Level 3 Communications, Inc. (NETBLK-LC-ORG-ARIN) 1025 Eldorado Boulevard Broomfield, CO 80021 Interesting, same basic provider as freethought^2 nbr 4. We are going to see a lot of level 3 comm, but more on that later. IP's used also in this series: 64.158.170.124 Identity 1 Flew Over also posts using this IP. ---------------------------------------------------- Alright what have we got now? "1 Flew Over" and "Curious About..." both posted from 64.158.169.26 which traces to a dial-up account in Dallas, Texas - Alan Walter's neck of the woods. "Curious About..." and "freethought^2" both posted from 12.91.3.89 which traces to a dial-up account in Cambridge, Massachusettes. And whoever this is has also been using the @home network based out of Redwood City, California (in the Bay area), but the proxy traces to Seattle, Washington. ============================================================ The following can be found on Mike Hunsaker's freezoneamerica discussion forum: FreeZone America Discussion Board: General Discussion: Mike vs. Mike By 1 Flew Over on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:29 pm: Eric Take a look around this site and see if the communication feels different. We differ but we seldom fight. Do not not do clearing tech because of that site. I will be back in Seattle in about three days and would gladly meet with you over a cup of coffee and you can ask me anything you want. I study and audit during the day but basicly my time is my own. I am opinionated but I have around thirty years experience in and around Scientology. I am OT VII if that means anything to you and I am not selling anything. This is not my profession. If interested get in touch and we can set up a meeting. I’ll hang out somewhere and if I look overly freaky, don’t introduce yourself. That should be safe and secure and completely under your control. You can also see my postings around the site. Be Well lflewover@hotmail.com ============================================================ Notice in the wording above, he says he will be "back in Seattle", not going TO but back IN, as if Seattle is his home base. Now we have to go back in time a bit to find the next clue: From: moreillon@eworld.com (Moreillon) Subject: Re: Nicole & Tom's Second Child: Did Anyone Notice... Date: 1996/02/20 Message-ID: <4gdtra$ptv@hp5.online.apple.com>#1/1 sender: root@news-relay.eworld.com references: <31259958.3330487@news.snafu.de> organization: eWorld reply-to: moreillon@eworld.com (Moreillon) newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology What I notice is that Vera replied to this thread. There must be "something here to see" if Vera replies. I also have heard that Tom & Nichole's baby is a c-org child, adopted in Florida. I heard this also of Kirstie Alley's baby, and that of Travolta. Can anyone confirm (or deny) these "rumors"? If it is true, it would certainly explain the celeb's continued involvement with the crunch. They would surely have to give up their children were they to defect. Curious About ============================================================ Above is the only example I found of a post signed "Curious About", posted to a public newsgroup. Here is another post from "Moreillon" about six months later: From: moreillon@aol.com (Moreillon) Subject: Re: A new Scientologist to talk to on news.groups? Date: 1996/08/02 Message-ID: <4tttvu$db0@newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1 sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com references: <31fa7710.10985130@news.teleport.com> organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) reply-to: moreillon@aol.com (Moreillon) newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology It's not too likely that Hilda will provide any meaningful discussion here. After all, she hasn't communicated with her family in 15 years, it would seem the height of hypocrisy that she would communicate to other critics. But, good luck! just be prepared for more clearbaby drivel. Hilda's mother ============================================================ Following is an excerpt from a post the following year: From: Dan and Jana Moreillon <morejd@mail.gte.net> Subject: Re: you should have known Date: 1997/06/25 Message-ID: <5opo34$hhm$2@news12.gte.net>#1/1 References: <5ooskd$srs@nntp02.primenet.com> Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS X-Auth: 5800828A59D004C8484D0412 Reply-To: morejd@mail.gte.net Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology "...It does seem to me, however, that you should have known that a person who can disconnect from her mother, ( who actually got her into huborg and paid for her early services- why, she even said that she went clear in a session delivered to me by lrh while I was pregnant with her), would not hesitate too long to disconnect from a mere husband with whom she is displeased..." ============================================================ Jana Moreillon has posted as Jana, Jana Moreillon, and lately as "ladayla", Dan Moreillon is her husband. It would appear that they sometimes share the same account as shown here: From: "Dan Moreillon" <MOREJD@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology References: <lsremt4reptjdvpcmvilj334qd9hq744e3@4ax.com> <lZM97.160eQ5.17668289@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <9k889p$si2$1@perki.connect.com.au> Subject: Re: TobyOrNotToby Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <aWX97.490$HI2.136070192@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.20.241.247 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr17.news.prodigy.com 996690694 6723140 64.20.241.247 (Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:31:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:31:34 EDT Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:31:34 GMT "John" <junk@junk.com> wrote in message news:9k889p$si2$1@perki.connect.com.au... > > "Dan Moreillon" <MOREJD@prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:lZM97.160$eQ5.17668289@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > > > > I find your use of the name Quentin Hubbard to be extremely offensive > > and in the poorest taste. > > > > Why? Did you know the man? Yes. I knew him as a young man. He was kind. Considerate. Overwhelmed by his father and mother. jana ============================================================ However, from the header of the above post: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.20.241.247 No reverse DNS NetRange: 64.20.0.0 - 64.20.255.255 NetName: NAVIPATH2 OrgName: NaviPath 800 Federal Street Andover, MA 01810 A current trace on the above IP goes to the Boston area. You may recall that curious about also posted from an AT&T account in Cambridge, MA: 12.91.3.89 Canonical name: 89.cambridge-08-09rs.ma.dial-access.att.net ============================================================ Here is Jana posting as "ladayla": From: ladayla <ladayla_member@newsguy.com> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: I'm back! Date: 19 Dec 2001 11:09:15 -0800 Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com] Lines: 33 Message-ID: <9vqokr02tou@drn.newsguy.com> References: <9vlii104k0@drn.newsguy.com> <2lbv1ust06hf9tdna4rqtjergp9qdik9aj@ARSCC.Sweden.Dep.OSA.Surveillance> <3C1FB197.C3AC3A46@bc.cc.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-109.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Direct Read News 2.91 In article <3C1FB197.C3AC3A46@bc.cc.ca.us>, Chris says... > >"©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/" wrote: >> >> On 17 Dec 2001 11:54:41 -0800. >> In Message-ID: <9vlii104k0@drn.newsguy.com> >> From: Ladayla <Ladayla_member@newsguy.com>. >> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]. >> Wrote on the subject: I'm back!: >> >yeah,yeah,you didn't notice that I was gone. Well, I was. I had a "wowie >> >zowie"vacation in the Hawaaian Islands. I'm all brown and renewed and up for >> >another year of annoying the cult. >> >> Hawaii, ouch. Wasn't that one of the places where Xenu tortured Body >> Thetans en masse? > >Well, technically yes, but Hawaii wasn't there at the time so it's not >fair to blame the place for it. Dan and I have been vacationing in the Hawaaian Islands for years and years. We usually go to Maui, or one of the smaller of the Islands. This time, we decided to visit the "big Island". Don't ever go there if you are seeking the ideal of Hawaai as Paradise. The "big Island" consists for the most part of miles and miles and miles of the ugliest shit you will ever see. Lava everywhere. It is the greatest PR coup of all times that any visitor ever goes to that Island. I got a rilly good education about volcanos anyways, and the resorts where us tourists stay are like little lush jewels in the midst of a disaster area. I didn't see any BTs,but I could tell that they were there. All solid and smashed into that awful lava. jana ============================================================ And here is Jana posting strictly as "ladayla": From: ladayla <ladayla_member@newsguy.com> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Drugs Wrongly Prescribed to 7 Million Elderly Date: 5 Jan 2002 14:41:45 -0800 Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com] Lines: 132 Message-ID: <a17vf90e84@drn.newsguy.com> References: <a13js501gen@drn.newsguy.com> <X2dZ7.213695$WW.12473103@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <a159h60kjd@drn.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-228.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Direct Read News 2.91 well...I prolly am considered elderly. My body's age is 70. But the SOB doctors aren't prescribing me any drugs! I'd love to have some. Some amphetamines would be a gas. Then maybe some Xanax to sleep with. What else? I'd like to try some Valium, perhaps some Paxil. I dunno. My friends say that I would love Ectasy. But do you think anyone ever offers me any of this good stuff? The answer is "NO". And now that the LMT is out of business, I'm not getting my monthly allowance of Prozac. What kind of a world is it when a fine seasoned citizen can't get turned on? la ============================================================ Found at: http://www.geocities.com/carpenter_family_1865/AuntRuth.html (Jana Moreillon) Bobbie Jean Carpenter Born February 1931 Married Dan Moreillon Engineer at Boeing Plant in Seattle, Washington Feb 1931 + 70 yrs. = Feb 2001 - Jan 31 2002 Jana, 05 Jan 02: "My body's age is 70" http://www.geocities.com/carpenter_family_1865/DonJanaMoreillon.jpg ----------------------------- Search Results - 2 Records Found # Name City State Age 1 DAN R MOREILLON RENTON WA 49 2 JANA W MOREILLON RENTON WA 71 Renton, Washington is just outside of Seattle. It appears that Dan Moreillon is: 1 Flew Over curious about... The sexy virtual Freezone babe The Tecfairy Eunice the librarian and possibly a few other identities as well... ============================================================ From an anonymous phone message received back in June of this year by Mike & Virginia: http://www.hasi.ws/intelligence/curiousabout/mmtranscript.shtml "I was doing a little research project on google and saw that you were having trouble with Curious About and (caller stumbled here) Barry n'all that. Yes, it's all one person. No his name is not Paul. He travels around a bit that's why you see him in Seattle, Dallas, San Fran...(stumbled again), San Francisco Bay Area and uh....I'm not him, but I just thought that ...just calm your little fears, but uh.. yea it's all the same guy and he just travels a lot, he's not a sophisticated agent trying to undermine Rons Org or anything else. Bye." ============================================================ On 17 Sep 02, I sent a summary of the above information to Virginia in a private email, but until now, neither Virginia nor I have said anything about this publicly. Earlier today (six days later), in response to a post by "Eric in Seattle" on Mike Hunsaker's freezoneamerica discussion forum, 1 Flew Over posted the following: FreeZone America Discussion Board: General Discussion: Mike vs. Mike By 1 Flew Over on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 08:28 pm: Eric Just a quick note. I have finished the training I came up to Seattle to do and will be leaving sometime during the coming weekend. My auditor and instructor is moving so she can do some more studying and will probably not be back so I won’t be back. You are welcome to get in touch by email anytime if I'm in the area or not. The Cof$ can be a great way to get involved and the public level courses are the best deal around. If you go say Hi to Janette(Day Org) and Mark(evening Org). On second thought maybe you shouldn’t. Whether you chose the Cof$ or the Freezone, my suggestion is chose one and get on with it. It is the best game going. Be Well Future updates will be added to: http://www.hasi.ws/intelligence/curiousabout.shtml Author: Virginia McClaughry, Posted: Tue 24 Sep 2002 5:00 pm Subject: Re: "curious about" David said: On 17 Sep 02, I sent a summary of the above information to Virginia in a private email, but until now, neither Virginia nor I have said anything about this publicly. Earlier today (six days later), in response to a post by "Eric in Seattle" on Mike Hunsaker's freezoneamerica discussion forum, 1 Flew Over posted the following: FreeZone America Discussion Board: General Discussion: Mike vs. Mike By 1 Flew Over on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 08:28 pm: Eric Just a quick note. I have finished the training I came up to Seattle to do and will be leaving sometime during the coming weekend. My auditor and instructor is moving so she can do some more studying and will probably not be back so I won’t be back. You are welcome to get in touch by email anytime if I'm in the area or not. The Cof$ can be a great way to get involved and the public level courses are the best deal around. If you go say Hi to Janette(Day Org) and Mark(evening Org). On second thought maybe you shouldn’t. Whether you chose the Cof$ or the Freezone, my suggestion is chose one and get on with it. It is the best game going. Be Well --- A sequence that appears to be related. 1. 1flew over (curious about) states "I will be back in Seattle.." on September 13, no indication of leaving town or moving, or anything. 2. David discovers the above information about "Curious About", emails it to me on the morning of September 17th. 6:10AM. Nothing is publically done with this information, at that point. 3. September 18th, a group of us, took a trip to seattle, where we spent that day, and the next, returning in the evening of September 19th. The trip resulted in an important recovery, which funnily enough, one of the person's who was not at all happy with our arrival, also has an employment history with Boeing Aircraft in Lynnwood, just outside of Seattle. Interesting "coincidence". 4. September 23rd, 1flewover states basically that he, (and I assume his wife), plus his "auditor and instructor" (who I believe has been referred to by 1flewover in the past as a husband and wife team-trained by LRH etc. etc.) are all eaving town within a week. Very sudden, this "leaving town" of apparently a minimum of four people, and there is a very high probability, that this sudden leaving, is related, to our trip to Seattle. Like a "covers are blown, closedown operations and get out of town, kind of thing". Extrapolating on that being the case, I wonder WHO is going to be left out in the cold? Virginia |
