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Beginning FREE ZONE TIME TRACK Author: Virginia McClaughry, Posted: Mon 23 Sep 2002 4:51 am Subject: Beginning FREE ZONE TIME TRACK Note: the following will be incorporated into the Scientology Time track (data section), by Mike. Beginning Free Zone Time Track *-Comments by Paul Misiunas **-Comments by Virginia McClaughry 1976 no date -Bernd Luebeck (President of the Freie Zone e.V) says in a COSI post (14 June 2000) that he was in the Guardian's Office (GO) from 1976-1982. 1982 10 November A non-interference zone (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1390) The Free Zone Decree : 10 Nov 1982 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1372) "The planet known as Teegeeack - local dialect "Earth" or Terra - Sun 12, Sector 9, is hereby declared a Free Zone. No political interference in its affairs from any other part of the Sector or Galaxy will be tolerated. No economic interference in its affairs will be tolerated from any non-planetary agency or power. All of its inhabitants are hereby declared Free Zone Citizens and free of external political or economic interference. The regulating agency of this decree is the Galactic Patrol Sector 9, Sector Commander Elron Elray and his designated representatives. The planet is henceforth under the Sole Auspices of the Galactic Patrol, Sector 9, for coordination with Galactic and Sector Affairs and for compliance with this decree. The Technical and Ethical experiments in progress on Teegeeack are not affected by this decree and are to continue under the auspices of the Galactic Patrol, Sector9..." 1983 no date-March -Daniel McKeown leaves the COS (email Daniel to Virginia, April 7,2001 7:51PM) "I left the CofS for good in March 1983." 1984 19 January Sector Operations Bulletin No. 18 : 19 Jan 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1389) CBR Tape Transcript Q&A: "Q 20. Is it this group I've been hearing about, who can handle this mess and act and get the people of Earth to wake up and choose their own destiny as citizens of a Free Zone planet taking its place in the society of the Galactic Civilization and playing a survival, expansion, flourish and prosper, fun game called "The New Civilization Game". - Is not it the group known as the Galactic Patrol? A 20. Yes." * The Galactic Patrol has the responsibility of carrying out the purposes and intents of the 'Free Zone Decree'. Earth is considered a Free Zone planet which has the right to decide it's own future. 'Free Zone' and 'Non-Interference' go hand-in-hand. 20 February Sector Operations Bulletin No. 19 : 20 Feb 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1390) CBR says: "...The results are already conclusive. Scientology and Dianetics are flourishing and prospering in the Free Zone (outside the Church)..." * The church, and everyone else for that matter, can be considered to be in the Free Zone. After all, we all live on this planet, don't we? Here we see that Scn and Dn are doing what it is that they were intended to do. Sector Operations Bulletin No. 19 : 20 Feb 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1390) CBR says: "Most importantly, with the Free Zone Decree came the opportunity for the inhabitants of Earth to decide their own destiny. The definition of a Free Zone Planet is: "One that may choose its own political or economic affiliation or choose to remain independent and represented thusly in the Grand Council. Such choices to be made in suitable referendum of its populations after representative chosen leaders of the various subgroups of its populations have engaged in free testimony and discussion of the merits and shortcomings of each proposed course of action. The planet shall remain Free Zone until such referendum is correctly and ethically held. A free Zone Planet is under the auspices of the Galactic Patrol Authority of the Sector in which it is situated, their authority limited to their purpose and the definition herein stated."" * It can't get any clearer than that. Sector Operations Bulletin No. 19 : 20 Feb 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1390) CBR says: "The Markabians left on Earth will be forced to go along with the New Civilization as technically they are Free Zone Citizens..." * Technically, everyone on the planet is a Free Zone Citizen. Technically, but not in fact. 21 February Sector Operations Bulletin No. 20 : 21 Feb 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1391) CBR says: "All Free-Zone Citizens of Planet Earth are hereby warned of the conspiracy to suppress personal freedom by the creation of a police state and are enjoined to refuse to cooperate with the steps being taken toward the enslavement of Earth. *We are being warned that not all is as it appears to be. 27 October TELEPATHY SEMINAR : 27 Oct 1984 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1715) CBR says: "...Go to some of the Free Zone Independent Groups and they will give you the processing and training necessary that will help you with these abilities." * Remember, these are "Independent Groups" WITHIN the Free Zone. They do not make up it's totality. [ref: 1610] TELEPATHY SEMINAR : 27 Oct 1984 CBR says: "...And these places exist in the "independent" - or what we call the Free Zone in Germany and other countries of Europe...." * Again, these "independents" are being GROUPED under the Free Zone Decree. 1985 ** possibly September/October 1985 (tech briefing 5 is Sept 85 and tech briefing 7 is November 1985) no date Technical Briefing Number 6 : (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1615) CBR says: "...And of course there is the BEST idea, just like we do it in the Free Zone, sometimes called the Independent Scientology Movement. Why don't we just REMAIN independent. That'll be a FREE ZONE PLANET. Hey, now that's the BEST idea! See?..." * Here we see the introduction of applying the term 'Free Zone' to specific entities within it. But also notice that the HIGHER purpose is not lost - a Free Zone PLANET. It seems that some have already misapplied the purposes of the 'Free Zone Decree' with 'Independent' movements. 1988 The New Civilization - OT Convention 88 : 1988 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1401) CBR says: "And our vector is essentially to bring the New Civilization awareness to the planet and to present to them the rules of the Free-Zone Decree which means that everyone must be brought up to the point where they can decide for themselves on which way the planet goes. Free Zone Decree and the New Civilization Idea with it are both in that flow. Because the Free Zone Decree applies to all of these. The Free Zone Decree applies to all. IF you read it in Sector 9 you see it does apply to the whole planet. But, the idea we are implementing it with is the idea of a New Civilization, because the old one didn't work very well." * Here CBR is again emphasizing the purposes and intents of the Free Zone Decree. The Decree is applicable to ALL. 1990 UFO Lecture 2 : 1990 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1405) CBR says: "So there's a third group, a real alternative 3, who control people through truth and freedom so they can control themselves. And that's what we call The Free Zone. You have around Europe and in Australia and in South America and in the United States several of these places. Now in between all of these are the mass of humanity that are being tried to be controlled by all the other groups. And we know why. And we are the only ones that know why, 'cause they won't tell you..."; * The Free Zone is being described as the 'real alternative 3'. In other words, he is referring to the Free Zone Decree. UFO Lecture 2 : 1990 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1405) CBR says: "I think that you might all agree at this point that an idea can influence a whole civilization. And the idea of a free zone planet where everyone can choose for themselves, if they know all the data, I think you'll agree that that's a pretty good idea." * The key phrase: "if they know all the data". 1991 March 1991 ** An event apparently related to CBR, is referenced by Joe Harrington,(in a 17 May 1994 post), as having occurred at this time. "I¥m still interested to hear what occured in Mar 91, when you have the time" "I learned some interesting data about Capt Bill¥s situation and it certainly filled in some of the missing pieces in my puzzle, and my non-confront of what had to be done" 12 May -"Capt. Bill Robertson died on 12th of May 1991" (Eulogy page on www.freezone.de ) -Bernd Luebeck alleges that CBR died of cancer in Switzerland, with a strong inference that CBR's death was because he "refused medical treatment". Bernd Luebeck in an email from 22 September 2001 answering Virginia says: Virginia: How did he die really do you know? Bernd: Yes, he had cancer and he refused medical treatment. In that time he lived in Swizzerland... gave quite some lectures to transfer his technical knowledge to auditors and C/Ses. - Huggie, in a post 18 September 2001, presents different data as to CBR's cause of death. >"Another bit where he says his tyre was slashed. > > I was in comm. with a girl who was in his org. She said that he was in > >telepathic comm. with Ron and theta contact, even after he (Ron) died. > >S he also said that Bill died in a speed crash on an autoban. Anyone know > >abt. that?" **Contrary Facts: Cause of Death "...he had cancer and he refused medical treatment." "...S he also said that Bill died in a speed crash on an autoban" **Joe Harrington, in a post on 17 May 1994 says: "It would appear I will be picking up the hat of Capt Bill when he left in 92." **Homer Wilson Smith, in a post on 09 August 1997 says: "Captain Bill died in 1994-1995 still loyal to LRH but adamantly opposed to the original Church and its upper management.-Homer" ** Contrary Facts: Date of Death "died on 12th of May 1991" - Flemming Funch, www.freezone.de site "...Capt Bill when he left in 92" - Joe Harrington "Captain Bill died in 1994-1995" - Homer Wilson Smith - ** Note the three different dates given by, respectively, Bernd/Flemming Funch, Joe, Homer. Extrapolating on the intentionally generated "confusion" surrounding CBR's "death", what if CBR didn't "die" at all? Being a Galactic Patrol Officer, and being as how that organization IS in existence, it is entirely likely that CBR was simply picked up, fixed up, and began directly working with Ron, which is what he wanted to do anyway, (from what I understand). Shortly after 12 May -Freie Zone e.V. startup in Munich, Germany. "In 1991, short after Bill Robertson died, we started the Free Zone Association".-Bernd "In 1991 we founded the "Freie Zone e.V." as a registered association." -Bernd ** Bernd Luebeck is the President of the Freie Zone e.V. -Flemming Funch writes a eulogy for CBR EXCERPT from a later post to the newsgroups by Homer Wilson Smith -- Eulogy for Captain Bill -- (written May 1991 by Flemming Funch for Free Spirit) "Captain Bill died the 12th of May 1991. Another of the great spirits from the history of Scientology and the independent field passed on to other playing fields. William Branton Robertson was born the 2nd of December 1936 in Georgia. He grew up mostly in New Orleans where he also went to college. He became an engineer and worked as such for a number of years...." 1992 01 January -Electra's first post: From: Electra@vfz.earth.com Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: (none) Message-ID: <1jan92-13107@vfz.earth.com> Date: 1 Jan 92 03:38:49 GMT Sender: Electra@vfz.earth.com Reply-To: Electra@vfz.earth.com Followup-To: This list Organization: A Voice of the Free Zone Lines: 2 Hello Some time in 1992 -THE FREE ZONE : 1992 ca. (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1198) Electra writes: "The Free Zone is a huge sprawling loosely connected system of Independent Scientologists, those who were either once part of the Church and left or were booted out, and those who came into Scientology through contact with the Free Zone." * Here is where the term 'Free Zone' begins to be redefined by calling it something else - a "loosely connected system". The 'Free Zone Decree' makes no mention of any type of system or order. What begins to happen here is that the idea of a 'Free Zone' 'system' is being confused with the actual purpose and intent of the 'Free Zone Decree'. The proper terminology to use to create a logical relation for understanding purposes, is to say that the 'Independent Scientologists' and the 'loosely connected system' are both WITHIN the Free Zone, but the Free Zone is NOT those things mentioned. 18 January EXCERPT From: Electra@vfz.earth.com (Electra@vfz.earth.com) Subject: (none) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Date: 1992-01-18 11:30:31 PST "I buy them and fix them and sell them all the time." "There are things worse on this planet than the Church of Scientology. Sir Electra" ** This post by Electra is signed "Sir Electra". The use of "Sir" is usually a male reference-although not always. The way "sir" is used in this signature is reminiscent of a possibly self-imposed rank of "knight". This post (which I have snipped most of) has quite a bit of discussion about e-meter's, building of etc. This tends to narrow down potential "people" that Electra either is, or is closely associated with. Ralph Hilton, and Homer Wilson Smith come to mind immediately, as examples of persons expressing interest in construction, etc., of meters. Narrowing even further, Ralph Hilton to this day, discusses the feasibility of manufacturing em-meters outside the "Church". Compare that information to the excerpted statement by "Electra" below: "I buy them and fix them and sell them all the time." Another point of note: is the statement before the signature, that I have included as well. Many subtle, and not so subtle vectors in that statement. 1993 07 May 1993 EXCERPT From: Homer Wilson Smith (homer@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU) Subject: FL-CB Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, alt.clearing.technology View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format Date: 1993-05-07 10:16:37 PST -- Eulogy for Captain Bill -- (written May 1991 by Flemming Funch for Free Spirit) Captain Bill died the 12th of May 1991. Another of the great spirits from the history of Scientology and the independent field passed on to other playing fields. William Branton Robertson was born the 2nd of December 1936 in Georgia. He grew up mostly in New Orleans where he also went to college. He became an engineer and worked as such for a number of years. ** This appears to be the exact same eulogy found on www.freezone.de. Also, Flemming Funch has recently been accessing Mike's websites, I believe it was Friday or Saturday. Note that Maria is NOT referred to as CBR's wife, so we can probably safely assume they are not married per se. 14 June Clear-L LIST : 14 Jun 1993 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=165) Homer Wilson Smith writes: "The Church is violently and fanatically opposed to independent Scientology, the so called 'field' or 'Free Zone'..." * In fact, the 'field' has nothing to do with the Free Zone other than of being WITHIN the Free Zone and under the influence of the Free Zone Decree. 1994 17 February Joe : 17 Feb 1994 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=55) Homer Wilson Smith relays: "About our group in short: It is called "Freie Zone e.V." (Free Zone registered Assoc.). Here an extract of our self-description. It's members come from various scn-traditions as you might call it. Purpose is not the defence of a single scn-direction but to set up a kind of umbrella organization. Goals This association is an initiative by the supporters of cognition-philosophies. A philosophy of cognition has to do with the change and devolpment of persons through self-achieved cognitions..." * Here we see that Freie Zone e.V. has been established for purposes other the those stated in the Free Zone Decree. 1) Cognitions have nothing to do with spiritual gain. 2) What is the purpose of an 'umbrella organization' when the Free Zone Decree already covers it all? 3) This is the killer: "Purpose is not the defence of a single scn-direction". Off track and off Scn. 17 May Excerpts from a post by Joe Harrington "I¥m still interested to hear what occured in Mar 91, when you have the time" "I learned some interesting data about Capt Bill¥s situation and it certainly filled in some of the missing pieces in my puzzle, and my non-confront of what had to be done" "It would appear I will be picking up the hat of Capt Bill when he left in 92." 12 June http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1780&stx=joe%2Bharrington Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 22:20:00 EDT From: Joe Harrington <harrington_j-smtc%NOVA.NOVANET.ORG@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA> Subject: Re: SMASH THE SQUIRRELS!! [snip] Joe United Free Zone Alliance **First on 17 May Joe is saying that he will be picking up the hat of Capt Bill when he left in 1992" (a then there is this appearance of the term "United Free Zone Alliance" which still exists today as the registrant of Bernd Luebeck's Free Zone Association website. 19 July http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1771&stx=doc%2Bmorgan From: dmorgan@crash.cts.com (Doc Morgan) Subject: Clarification of Intent Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 19:39:37 GMT [snip] Old Timer United Free Zone Alliance **another "United Free Zone Alliance" signature 10 August http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1804&stx=joe%2Bharrington From: harrington_j-smtc@nova.novanet.org Subject: L. Ron Hubbard - On Homosexuals Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 12:41:50 -0400 [snip] Joe Harrington United Free Zone Alliance **another "United Free Zone Alliance" signature 29 August http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1791&stx=homer%2Bwilson%2Bsmith From: homer@crl.com (Homer W. Smith) Subject: Scientology and the Internet Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:30:55 -0700 Here is my answer to Mr. Thomas Small. First is my paraphrase of his letter to me, and below is my answer. [snip] Homer Wilson Smith United Free Zone Alliance **another "United Free Zone Alliance" signature 1995 no date -Bernd Luebeck and (others unnamed), as the Freie Zone e.V, purchased the rights to Nordenholz's book. "In 1995 we purchased the rights to the work of Nordenholz and republished the book "Scientology, Science of the Constitution and Usefulness of Knowledge", written in 1934. See "http://www.scientologie.de". 1 February From: homer@poly.math.cornell.edu (Homer Wilson Smith) Subject: Scientology Petition v2.1 Date: 1 Feb 1995 10:50:00 GMT [snip] Homer Wilson Smith United Free Zone Alliance ** another "United Free Zone Alliance" signature. Note that Bernd Luebeck, is associated with the "United Free Zone Alliance", so the entry of no date, 1995, where Bernd etc. purchased Nordenholz, takes on a whole other dimension. Extrapolating, it seems that Homer, Joe, "Doc Morgan", and Bernd, at a minimum were involved directly or perhaps indirectly, with purchasing the rights to Nordenholz's book. Bernd seems to be acting in the "front man" capacity primarily. I believe Otfried Krumpholz,and Erica and Max, were also involved in this particular move, as I recall, 5 February http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1770&stx=doc%2Bmorgan From:dmorgan@cts.com (Doc Morgan) Subject: Free Zone Assoc. Announcement #1 Date: Mon Feb 5 20:12:46 1996 [snip] Old Timer for The Board of Directors of the Freie Zone e.V. **"Doc Morgan changes signature to Free Zone Association AKA Freie Zone e.V 17 October 1995 The United Free Zone Alliance registers the domain name www.freezone.org. From the WhoIS lookup: Registrant: United Free Zone Alliance (FREEZONE2-DOM) P.O. Box 1215 Haag i.Obb., Bavaria 83524 Germany Domain Name: FREEZONE.ORG Administrative Contact: Luebeck, Bernd (BL425) Bernd.Luebeck@EPOST.DE Freie Zone e.V. Curd-Juergens-Str. 4 Munich 81739 DE 0049 89 6704503 0049 89 6704803 Technical Contact: Smith, Homer Wilson (HS133) homer@LIGHTLINK.COM Art Matrix - Lightlink PO 880 Ithaca, NY 14851-0880 (607) 277-0959 (FAX) (607) 277-8913 Record expires on 18-Oct-2010. Record created on 17-Oct-1995. Database last updated on 22-Sep-2002 17:07:32 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: LIGHT.LIGHTLINK.COM 205.232.34.1 MAJESTY.LIGHTLINK.COM 205.232.34.7 SDN.IECC.COM 208.31.42.43 *This becomes interesting. We have the "United Free Zone Alliance" and we also have the "United Free Zone Fellowship" both starting about the same time. We also have 'Doc Morgan's' transition from "United Free Zone Alliance" to "Free Zone Association". If what 'Old Timer' says is true about the Free Zone Association owning the freezone.org domain, then the obvious correlation can be made that the United Free Zone Alliance and the Free Zone Association are one and the same. Basically, all that ocurred here is a name change. Joe Harrington used the title, "United Free Zone Alliance" as a reference to his involvement in that mysterious group or 'organization'. Additionally, he created the "United Free Zone Fellowship" stating that it (and he) had nothing to do with the Free Zone as defined by CBR. It wouldn't be far off to have that same mindset being applied to the Free Zone Association through the common link of the UFZA. There are a few things hiding in the shadows here. Among them, the importance of the Nordenholtz book in all this. **Lightlink is run by Homer Wilson Smith. (listed as the technical contact above). It is the same server that primarily hosts the newsgroups, alt.religion.scientology, and alt.clearing.technology. Bernd Luebeck, is President of the Frei Zone e.V. but is the administrative contact for the United Free Zone Alliance owned domain >www.freezone.org. Freezone.org is a mirror site of www.freezone.de, also apparently run by Bernd Luebeck. In the May 91 entry, Bernd establishes that this is when the Free Zone Association (aka Freie Zone e.V.) is formed, and in 17 February 1994, Homer describes the Free Zone Association as "our" group, to Joe Harrington. But yet in 1994, 12 June, Joe is signing his posts with "Joe", then underneath that "United Free Zone Alliance". And here is that name, apparently first used by Joe Harrington, STILL, as of 22 September 2002, the registrant of the domain of the site Bernd Luebeck runs and promotes as the site of the Free Zone Association. 1996 5 February http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1770&stx=doc%2Bmorgan From:dmorgan@cts.com (Doc Morgan) Subject: Free Zone Assoc. Announcement #1 Date: Mon Feb 5 20:12:46 1996 [snip] Old Timer for The Board of Directors of the Freie Zone e.V. **"Doc Morgan changes signature to Free Zone Association AKA Freie Zone e.V. June 22 Subject: Scientologie.org clarification Date: 1996/06/22 Message-ID: <4qfeqd$jtp@netaxs.com>#1/1 organization: Philadelphia's Complete Internet Provider newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology I got this from Old Timer: -------------------------- So there is no confusion as to the legal owner of the domain name, scientologie.org, I offer the following correction: Mr. Luebeck is the administrative contact for the scientologie.org and freezone.org homepages. The domain name is owned by the Free Zone Association (Freie Zone e.V.). The homepages are operated by the association. Old Timer http://www.freezone.org http://www.scientologie.org **String...who is this "Old Timer"/"Doc Morgan"? 08 October Freezone - clarification of nomenclature : 08 Oct 1996 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=73) Ralph Hilton writes; "The "Freezone" is a term coined by W. B. Robertson, a former high ranking Sea Org member. The following is a statement he issued relating to the creation of the "Freezone". Generally people who have left the church and practice scientology in some form or another refer to themselves as "Independent Scientologists" or by the name of their own offshoot group and prefer not to be associated with Robertson's somewhat unusual set of beliefs. I don't know of anyone who posts to a.r.s. that is part of the "Freezone" as detailed below. "Elron Elray" is the name W.B.R. uses for Hubbard." [Free Zone Decree followed] * The prolific newsgroups author, Ralph Hilton, states that "Independents" do not consider themselves a part of the Free Zone. Here he downgrades the Free Zone concept by saying it is a "somewhat unusual set of beliefs". The credibility of the Free Zone Decree is questioned. 1997 http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/docref.php?ref=1746&stx=joe%2Bharrington 10 May From: Joe Harrington <joeharr@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: What's in a name? was: Re: An E-Meter Story Date: 1997/05/10 [snip] The United Free Zone Fellowship came into existence in 1994. The "Free Zone" aspect of the name has nothing to do with the above and the name was inspired by the "Free Zone" in the movie, The Stand, based on the book of Maine author, Stephen King. I am not a "Free Zoner" and there are no "Free Zoners" in the UFZF. Joe 10 May Re: What's in a name? was: Re: An E-Meter Story : 10 May 1997 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=1747) ladyv (Enid) writes: "...To me Free Zone includes all technologies of the spirit, whether I agree with them or not. It is FREE. If you are a student of the Spirit, you are a Free Zoner to me. This is how I use it and what I mean by it." * Enid interprets the Free Zone Decree to refer to SPECIFIC technologies of the spirit. Not just one, but ANY 'technology' of the spirit. Now Scn's credibility is questioned. 09 August Title: Letter from the Church Author: Smith, Homer W. Type: Newsgroup Posting Date: 09 Aug 1997 Location: misc.int-property "Captain Bill died in 1994-1995 still loyal to LRH but adamantly opposed to the original Church and its upper management.-Homer" 15 August From: Old Timer Subject: Re: Free Zone Association: Legal Alert Date: 1997/08/15 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970815120429.00683d64@king.cts.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.34.1 Organization: Art Matrix - Lightlink Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology "Nov 29, 1996- Bernd Leubeck (President of the Free Zone Association) and the adminisitive contact for the homepage received the following fax from the German law firm of Boehmert and Boehmert which has been roughly translated. Please note: The following fax is the first direct Church related contact made to Bernd and the FZA." ** So.... Bernd Luebeck is the President of the Frei Zone e.V. 1998 04 August Re: Free Zone : 04 Aug 1998 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=174) Ralph Hilton writes: "The term Free Zone has come to include 2 meanings. One is those practicing scn outside the CofS as a fairly generic term. Originally the term was used by Bill Robertson to refer to the organizations he set up." * Here we have Ralph boldly redefining the 'Free Zone'. Now, the Free Zone has come to mean something mundane and valueless. Further, he cements the idea that the Free Zone is just an organization that CBR dreamed up. My, how far the 'Free Zone' has come! 07 August Re: Free Zone : 07 Aug 1998 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=175) Joe Harrington writes: "Yes, I agree the generic term "Free Zone" is prone to confusion and misunderstanding. I do a lot of independent research and auditing geared toward the alleviation of the adverse effects of Hubbard's "standard tech", however I reject being classified in a vague "Free Zone" category." * In typical black propaganda style, we have supporters coming out with 'validating' statements in order to further emphasize their hidden agenda. The Free Zone, as defined by the Free Zone Decree, has now come to mean something completely opposite of it's purpose and intent. The Free Zone concept has been dragged down from a 7th dynamic activity and smashed into the 1st dynamic, altered, discredited and made 'valueless'. 1999 01 January -Free Zone Report 1/1999 page 1 of 15 Free Zone Report Issue 1/1999 Publisher: registered association Free Zone, PO-BOX 1215, D-83524 Haag i.Obb., Germany E-Mail: fz-report@freezone.de Internet: http://www.freezone.de, http://www.freezone.org, http://www.scientologie.de Excerpt: In 1991 we founded the "Freie Zone e.V." as a registered association. It resulted from the neces-sity to organize ourselves, when the Church of Scientology between about 1988 and 1990 tried more and more intensively to infiltrate single groups of Free Zone. They tried to find alleged copyright-violations to tangle the groups up in legal discussions. Many of you will remember this... Office of Special Affairs ... etc. Based on our network thought, we didn¥t have any hierarchy which concerned itself with these things for all groups. By the registered association Free Zone we built a forum in which we did ba-sic research to the legal position in the working with the materials of LRH. The aim at that time was to understand the legal situation and to find out the prerequisites for one¥s safe working with these materials. ** Apparently Bernd Luebeck is the writer of the Freezone Report, and he again makes explanations as to "why" the Freie Zone e.V. was formed. CBR never formed such an association, so perhaps this is part of why Bernd feels the need to convince readers of it's necessity. no date-early 1999 -Daniel McKeown states that he found the Freie Zone, and contacted Bernd Luebeck, in early 1999. (email Daniel to Virginia, April 07, 2001 7:51 PM) "In early 1999 i was searching the net and found Freie Zone. I recognized Capt. Bill's picture(as I had met him before and had alot of instant ARC with him) and contacted Bernd." no date-sometime in 1999 -Daniel brings Marianne Hagen and husband, to the U.S.-from a referral by Bernd Luebeck (email Daniel to Virginia April 7, 2001 7:51PM) "I arranged for her and her husband to fly to the U.S. and get myself and my equally stalled father moving on the bridge again. I had a fair dose of review and we both started EXCALIBUR about a year ago. Everything has been really cooking for us since. The C/s has decided to permanently move here and we have started some others on their bridge." **I believe Marianne and her husband, were flown to the U.S. from Australia. It is plausible that Daniel, where he said "The C/S has decided to permanently move here", meant Marianne ONLY. Extrapolating, this would mean that the husband went back to Australia, and I believe I vaguely remember Marianne saying something about the husband being back home where she was from. Perhaps Daniel and Marianne,(sans husband) are currently 2d partners. no date-end of 1999 -Bernd begins a timetrack paralleling "The Criminal Time Track". 2000 NO DATE -Freie Zone e.V purchases "rights" from CBR's heir. **Even though there are apparently exists no will, no copyrights etc. on CBR's material, the Freie Zone e.V. goes ahead and purchases the "rights" to "use and further distribution of the material" from CBR's heir, which is most likely referring to Maria Maloney. There was also a contract drawn up with the heir, allowing Freie Zone e.V. to use the material. (which if there aren't any copyrights-there was never a problem in the FIRST place). see 22 September 2001 entry. NO DATE-approximately spring 2000 -Daniel McKeown says he started Excalibur (email Daniel to Virginia April 7, 2001 7:51PM) "I had a fair dose of review and we both started EXCALIBUR about a year ago." 09 February Re: Free? Zone : 09 Feb 2000 (http://fza.org/fzreflib/docref?ref=26) Ralph Hilton writes: "I would say that getting auditing in the FZ is far more dangerous than in the CofS." * And now the propagandized 'Free Zone' is made to be 'dangerous'. Making an alteration dangerous is not bad in and of itself because that would be close to the truth. But truth is even better than being close to the truth. The truth is that the propagandized 'Free Zone' IS dangerous. The truth is that the Free Zone Decree defines the Free Zone, and quite clearly. If anything else comes to be called the 'Free Zone', then alteration is taking place. 14 June Bernd posts to COSI the following information: EXCERPTED ----- Original Message ----- From: <fz-de@freezone.de> To: <COSinvestigations@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:55 AM Subject: [COSinvestigations] non-ex "I was in the GO too between 1976 and 1982. I never really gave up the basic purposes of the GO which is more or less protection of the Free Zone groups.... PR and legal. In 1991, short after Bill Robertson died, we started the Free Zone Association. In that time the church infiltrated quite a few groups here in Europe and we had to defend ourselves against it." "In 1995 we purchased the rights to the work of Nordenholz and republished the book "Scientology, Science of the Constitution and Usefulness of Knowledge", written in 1934. See "http://www.scientologie.de". Since end of last year we are working on a timetrack concerning the Scn movement. It's on the net on our german webserver... "http://www.freezone.de/english/timetrack/tt-index.htm". It's quite a lot of data.... but still a lot of strings have to be pulled. It also includes the early data from Garrison's books "Playing Dirty" and "Hidden Story of Scientology". What interests me is the data about the government involvement in inviltration of the church... labeling Scn as a national security risc, etc... Bernd" ** In this non-e post to the COSI list,(at that time owned and run by confront23) here we have confirmation by Bernd, that "short after Bill Robertson died", A "we" started the Free Zone Association. With another explanation of why. Bernd's interest in "the data about the government involvement in infiltration to the church", takes on new meaning in light of Bernd's associations. We also appear to have the beginning of parallel vectors, to the vector of The Criminal Time track, (which later became the data section covered on www.scientologyintegrity.org).This is one of the first more visible attempts to eventually gain control of Mike and I's motion by the use of parallel vectors, which as Bernd says he began work on a "timetrack" at the end of "last year" (which would have been the end of 1999). Mike began work on timetracking various things, in approximately mid 1999. 2001 4 April -Daniel McKeown's initial contact of Virginia. Daniel works with Marianne Hagen-who is connected to RONS Org. Daniel is also known as "Vast". ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan mckeown" <danmckeown@mindspring.com> To: "Virginia" <vmcc@icehouse.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: PDC TAPE FIFTEEN******paragraph deleted Dear Virginia, Thank you for doing all of this tedious work. It is needed and wanted. Much ARC, Daniel McKeown P.S. If you can find the time,drop me an email.I would like to get in better comm with you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia" <vmcc@icehouse.net> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:54 PM Subject: PDC TAPE FIFTEEN******paragraph deleted **Virginia responds to Daniel and there are various interchanges. The important thing to note, is this contact was established by Daniel, and it is later Daniel, who repeatedly requested Virginia come post on the old FZA board-which apparently was a planned set-up, or "op". 19 May -Daniel emails Virginia and asks her to "exert some influence" to posters on the old fza discussion board. (email Daniel to Virginia May 19, 2001, 8:41AM) "I post sometimes to Free Zone America's discussion board. Do you ever get a chance to peruse there? Ever make any posts there? Most of these guys are lost and couldn't spot the bridge in front of them. There seems to be a lot confusion on "which subject" is right. I try and steer them to Ron's Org so they will actually get the old man's tech and get going again. If you can occasionally exert some influence to them I think your input would be quite helpful. It's just a suggestion." -later in the same email, Daniel mentions FZA again. "Let me know what your thoughts are on that FZA thing, OK?" **Virginia did not answer this email-which then Daniel a month later,mentioned FZA again. 16 June -Daniel emails Virginia, mentions Free Zone America,(discussion board), and that he is referring posters at FZA to the website. (email Daniel to Virginia June 16,2001 6:47AM) "I wanted to let you know that in my many posts to Free Zone America I sometimes find the need to direct people to your website. It has proven to be invaluable. Thank you for doing that. I know it has changed the course of some people's lives, so, once again, thanks." **Daniel, in bringing up the benefit of pointing posters at FZA to the website,is painting an image of support and potential welcome, from the posters at FZA. 31 July -Daniel emails Virginia and basically asks her to come add to the flow of posting to the Free Zone America discussion board. "We have been getting ALOT of interest from new people as well as experienced stuck churchies lately. One of the reasons, I know, is the fact that I have been posting to Free Zone America discussion board for a few months now(user name VAST).I direct people to RONS ORG bridge regularly and would love to see you or someone else up there to add to the flow. " **After the previous more subtle attempts to get Virginia to come to the FZA board, with no "bites", Daniel became much more direct,as you can see above. Virginia noticed that it seemed very important for some reason to Daniel for her to post on FZA, since it was the third mention of it, so she decided to go and take a look at the FZA board. 3 August -Virginia emails Daniel after looking around a bit on the FZA discussion board, and asks him some questions. (email Virginia to Daniel August 3, 2001, 12:57PM) Daniel: "...... We have been getting ALOT of interest from new people as well as experienced stuck churchies lately. One of the reasons, I know, is the fact that I have been posting to Free Zone America discussion board for a few months now(user name VAST).I direct people to RONS ORG bridge regularly and would love to see you or someone else up there to add to the flow. Virginia: *Ok, went over to that board (haven't been there in ages) and I see you posting. Some questions: 1. Who is vast plus? 2. Who is MERLIN SRC (also known as poor richard) 3. Who is rudy? Do you know these people?" 4 August -Daniel emails Virginia and answers the questions from August 3 email. (email Daniel to Virginia August 4, 2001, 11:40AM) "I do know who Vastplus on the FZA site is, it is an email address I use to receive private comm's from some people who want to comm personally to me from that site. As far as I know, Merlinsrc, accidently called ME Vastplus in one of his posts. I use VAST as a user name. Merlinsrc is someone on Source Operation Level 2, I do not know who it is exactly, or where he is, but I would say he's in eurpoe. He signs his posts as Poor Richard, even though they are logged on the site with the user name Merlinsrc. Rudy is Marianne's assistant and a good friend of hers and mine. He is just finishing ARC Straightwire. Both Merlinsrc and Rudy are RONS ORG terminals like us, but, Rudy is here in Atlanta. There is a reach by more and more to the RONS ORG bridge as I have been TR 3'ing them for a few months now. The increase in the posts is noticeable as the CofS is driving their public away and we are moving them on their bridges again. So goes the flow of games, eh?" **Note that Daniel says Merlinsrc is like Rudy, "RONS ORG terminals like us". 5 August -Virginia emails Daniel re:outpoints with merlinsrc, and asks Daniel some questions, as well as presenting the observation that RONS org, is not likely to have been left alone, and uninfiltrated. (email Virginia to Daniel August 5, 2001, 11:01PM) Excerpts of Virginia's email: "ok thanks for the data. There is something funny about merlinsrc though, particularly how he calls OT abilities "hidden standards", that's an enemy line, something is wrong there methinks." ".......Your posts on fza are very well written, I enjoy reading them. Tell me though, I noticed per one of the SOB's (ie LRH comms relayed by CBR) that LRH himself was to come back and do the levels (I believe csing) OT 16 (or was it 18 ), anyway, why are people going on without him being here?" "Also why do some Ro terminals seem to have a button on using telepathy, remote viewing, or even lack these kinds of abilities yet are OT whatever, etc.? (not meaning you here) Has Merlin or someone else run in that enemy line of its "hidden standards"? You have to figure, that the major players on the other side there is no way in hell they would have just "left RO alone" they tried something and there usual operation is to infiltrate it. Which I believe has occurred on at least a subtle level in some places." 6 August -Daniel emails Virginia and answers re merlinsrc,etc, but does not answer address many key points. (email Daniel to Virginia August 6, 2001, 10:51AM) "I have not perceived anything "funny" in Merlinsrc's universe, just me though. He seems OK to me at this point." "That's pretty wild about the activity above your house out there. I use my abilities all the time with clear demonstrable evidence to others in the MEST universe. I know exactly what you mean about the fleet. I was mentioning it to Marianne before you ever mentioned it to me. So, there's a validation for both of us I guess." "I support the making of Clears and OT's wherever they are TRULY produced, whether it's called this or that. I do not publicly endorse Tommy's group as a member, but, I do support any actual intention to attain the production of actual Clears and OT's." "I use the FZA discussion board as a calling card to RONS ORG and all it encompasses. My intent is to fill the site with winning people on RONS ORG bridge and flow the newcomers to us. I could use all the assistance I can get. Noone asked or told me to do this, it just seems to me to be the right thing to do. It's a mission I gave myself which I have always done throughout the track. Going where I am needed and doing what is right for the advancement of civilizations and the clearing of beings and the production of OT's. I am so glad we are in comm and it's great to have a friend with such extraordinary abilities to play with. You are a blessing to behold and a pleasure to be affiliated with." **Note the carefully worded statements in support of Tommy Thompson's or similar groups. It is also of note, the fact that Daniel does not "perceive anything" odd at all with Merlinsrc. Daniel changes this perception later. In hindsight, it was VERY important to Daniel to not have a reality gap on perceptions, with Virginia, ostensibly in order to get Virginia on Marianne Hagen's lines, and also onto the FZA board to post. Also note the statements about what Daniel has in mind for Paul Misiunas's site (discussion board), as well as the blatently overdone salesmanlike compliments, appeals to a "mission" ideal, etc. Apparently, it seems a stronger push was decided on by Daniel to get Virginia to post It's the fourth time Daniel has pushed this, and again, this was very important to Daniel to have happen-as if he were under pressure to get the product of getting Virginia to the FZA discussion board. **It is important to also note that Daniel does not address the infiltration of Ron's org, nor why have they continued on without Ron, nor the lack of use of telepathy etc by supposed OT's, nor the fact that merlinsrc called some OT abilities "hidden standards" etc. etc. Virginia emails Daniel back the same day, and TR3's all points that were not addressed, including Daniel's not perceiving anything funny with merlinsrc. **Note: Daniel also supposedly shows knowledge of the fleet in space (that Ron commands). 6 August -Virginia answers Daniel's earlier on 6 August email, TR3's the unanswered questions, and tells Daniel she is investigating where this odd viewpoint Merlinsrc presented in one of their posts to the old FZA, is coming from. (email Virginia to Daniel August 6, 2001, 1:42PM) Virginia's responses marked with dashes: " I have not perceived anything "funny" in Merlinsrc's universe, just me though. He seems OK to me at this point. ---OK, well it's VERY subtle, not like Tommy etc. But didn't you notice how in this really long post on one of the threads that he called OT abilities "hidden standards"? That is a VERY subtle enemy line, that I have run into from Alan Walters etc etc, other theta trap kind of guys. And what I want to know, is have you heard this statement or even implied anywhere else in any RO terminal, I am investigating where this odd viewpoint is coming from." "---Hey, maybe you missed this question I asked you, I am really interested in an answer. "Tell me though, I noticed per one of the SOB's (ie LRH comms relayed by CBR) that LRH himself was to come back and do the levels (I believe csing) OT 16 (or was it 18 ), anyway, why are people going on without him being here?" That's pretty wild about the activity above your house out there. I use my abilities all the time with clear demonstrable evidence to others in the MEST universe. I know exactly what you mean about the fleet. I was mentioning it to Marianne before you ever mentioned it to me. So, there's a validation for both of us I guess. ---WOW! thanks for telling me about that, that's very cool and I am glad to see you using your abilities. But that reminds me, you didn't comment on this part, and it was a curiosity that I have observed from time to time out here in the freezone, and wondered what you think. Here's my q part on that again. "Also why do some Ro terminals seem to have a button on using telepathy, remote viewing, or even lack these kinds of abilities yet are OT whatever, etc.? (not meaning you here) Has Merlin or someone else run in that enemy line of its "hidden standards"? You have to figure, that the major players on the other side there is no way in hell they would have just "left RO alone" they tried something and there usual operation is to infiltrate it. Which I believe has occurred on at least a subtle level in some places."" 9 August -Daniel emails Virginia, and after being TR3'ed by Virginia, begins to address the previously unanswered points. (email Daniel to Virginia August 9, 2001, 9:21AM) "I agree with you in a way regarding Merlinsrc as there just seems to be something coming "underneath" his comm line. I just attribute it to some unresolved case stuff. The line about "hidden standards" and OT abilities is odd, too. Perhaps he has bypassed bridge, as in a previous level attested to that remains in actuality incomplete. At this point I am not completely sure though." "I was contacted by "1Flewover" yesterday and he is interested in what RONS ORG has to offer. He is on Solo Nots apparently, outside of CofS lines though. So the results of the posts seem to be creating the intended effects. Any assistance from you or others would be beneficial. I find that there is influence you carry in the Free Zone due to your very OT demonstration of abilities with the creation of your's and Mike's website. I commend you, again, on that." "You mentioned one of the SOB's written by CBR( comm from Elron) in your previous email. The one where Elron was to come back and do the levels. I haven't looked at them in months and skimmed over them to find the one you mentioned and didn't spot it. Which one is it? As to your question why people would go on without him, well, I beleive that would still be beneficial to a degree. I haven't done OT16 yet, but I do know it is a turning point on the bridge. I can perceive the causative level increasing tremendously and coinciding abilities to match. So what I am saying is to continue would be a good action. I don't believe Elron and CBR intended us to stop on our bridges, if they weren't physically(body animation) located nearby." "I was puzzled in regards to your question "Why do some RO terminals seem to have a button on using telepathy, remote viewing, or even lack these kind of abilities yet are OT whatever". I haven't met any RO terminals like that. Now granted I have only met a handful of RO Ot's so far, but, all of them exhibited very high adeptness with their OT abilities and had no back off on using them. At least with me there. Marianne and I utilize these abilities every single day. So I don't have an answer to your question but that one. I will say to you that if this is happening it seems to be an outness of some kind and should be corrected. Who do you know that has these buttons or unwillingness to demonstrate, or can not demonstrate? I want to know, please." **Note that now, Daniel all of a sudden says he agrees with Virginia re: Merlinsrc, but out of the other side of his mouth, Daniel begins to justify "for" Merlinsrc and attempt to explain away the outpoint by saying "perhaps he has bypassed bridge". As if this relieves Merlinsrc from any responsibility for their actions. This is a repeating theme with Daniel and Marianne, throughout Virginia and Mike's experience with them. If outpoints or out-ethics were found, it is consistently blamed on the case, and justified BY Marianne and Daniel, FOR whoever it is. This was done By Marianne and Daniel in relation to the later activities of 1flewover/curious about. It should be pointed out that in the above email, Daniel avoids the severity of what Merlinsrc had done,and the pointers to infiltration of RO, and avoids the similarity of Merlinsrc's written viewpoint to that of Alan C. Walter in some cases. Note the mention of 1flewover coming on Daniel's lines offered as "proof" to what effect posts on the old FZA can create. **Daniel tries to turn around who's investigation what, re: RO terminals having a button on using telepathy etc., by now "questioning" Virginia, but note that what is left out,and adroitly avoided by Daniel, is the relationship of RO terminals lack of OT abilities, and buttons on such to merlinsrc's presented enemy line of "hidden standard" OT abilities, as well as the strong pointers to that RO is infiltrated. **Daniel AGAIN promotes to Virginia to come post on the old FZA board, with more compliments as part of the "selling" process.It is becoming patently obvious to Virginia at this point, that it is of non-stop importance to Daniel, to get Virginia onto the old FZA board. The use of compliments, is very similar to the tactic which we'll refer to as schmoozing, that Otfried Krumpholz (RO C/S) used to approach Virginia initially, as well as Alan C. Walter in usenet chats, and others. 10 August -Daniel emails Virginia and points out that people on the old FZA site are being referred to the website. (email Daniel to Virginia August 9, 2001, 10:08AM) Hello Virginia, I just wanted to let you know that I have been directing some to your website again from my posts on FZA discussion board. I thought it would interest you to know this. Bye for now. Love, Daniel **This email by Daniel appears to be meant to reinforce the idea that Virginia should come and post to the old FZA, with the implication that "posters" are interested in the site.This was done most likely because there was no answer by Virginia yet to the most recent "come to FZA and post" attempt. 12 August -Virginia emails Daniel, and points out the outpoint with Daniels previous justification for Merlin,and Virginia also tells Daniel she is considering posting to FZA, as well as continued discussion of the previously unanswered key points re: RO etc. (email Virginia to Daniel August 12, 2001, 6:14PM) Virginia's reponses marked with dashes: " ....I agree with you in a way regarding Merlinsrc as there just seems to be something coming "underneath" his comm line. I just attribute it to some unresolved case stuff. --Possibly, but that would be a large outpoint in itself. Sol 2 and unresolved case? LRH doesn't look like that, now there's a product. 
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Daniel: The line about "hidden standards" and OT abilities is odd, too. Perhaps he has bypassed bridge, as in a previous level attested to that remains in actuality incomplete. At this point I am not completely sure though. --Ok, but who would be allowing such a thing to occur, besides himself, ie: cswise etc? I was contacted by "1Flewover" yesterday and he is interested in what RONS ORG has to offer. He is on Solo Nots apparently, outside of CofS lines though. So the results of the posts seem to be creating the intended effects. Any assistance from you or others would be beneficial. --Ok, I am considering posting over there.
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You mentioned one of the SOB's written by CBR( comm from Elron) in your previous email. The one where Elron was to come back and do the levels. I haven't looked at them in months and skimmed over them to find the one you mentioned and didn't spot it. Which one is it? --SOB 22 11 May 1986 TELEC (telepathic communication) "I wish to thank all my friends in the Free-Zone and especially Capt. Bill, who carried on, in spite of great odds, on my behalf. The tech is all in his hands and is ready for you now. I wish you all success with it. When enough are ready for OT 17 and OT 18, I will return"" Daniel: As to your question why people would go on without him, well, I beleive that would still be beneficial to a degree. --I don't know that I agree, because for one thing, LRH is the only full product. To cs someone through something, per csing basics, the CS needs to have completed the grade theirselves, and also the old saying "it takes one to know one" comes to mind. LRH would be the only one qualified to bring someone through correctly, to start with, since he is the only one who has made it. Now from that point, I would imagine THAT person could then bring others through etc. But it makes sense that LRH would come back and be the one to bring the first ones through, it would have to be that way." I haven't done OT16 yet, but I do know it is a turning point on the bridge. I can perceive the causative level increasing tremendously and coinciding abilities to match. So what I am saying is to continue would be a good action. I don't believe Elron and CBR intended us to stop on our bridges, if they weren't physically(body animation) located nearby. --Except for that is what LRH SAID though, when enough are ready as in of course REALLY PRODUCTS and not bypassed cases etc etc, HE WILL RETURN. Pretty clear to me. I was puzzled in regards to your question "Why do some RO terminals seem to have a button on using telepathy, remote viewing, or even lack these kind of abilities yet are OT whatever". I haven't met any RO terminals like that. Now granted I have only met a handful of RO Ot's so far, but, all of them exhibited very high adeptness with their OT abilities and had no back off on using them. At least with me there. Marianne and I utilize these abilities every single day. So I don't have an answer to your question but that one. I will say to you that if this is happening it seems to be an outness of some kind and should be corrected. Who do you know that has these buttons or unwillingness to demonstrate, or can not demonstrate? I want to know, please. --Ok, I am still investigating this though, so am not comfortable yet with upping the gradient that far as there is still a remote chance the terminals involved might actually confront and handle the situation. Should that not occur in the near future, I will tell you, would that be ok with you?" 14 August 12:48PM PST --Virginia decides to begin posting to FZA. First post is on thread: topic 451 Admin Handling started by Merlinsrc http://www.fza.org/fzreflib/archive/viewtopic.php?t=1463 **Virginia, by going to post on FZA after 4 months of "selling" by Daniel, walks into what would later be discovered to be, quite the operation underway of Ralph, Tommy, Daniel, Rudy, Marianne, and other "prominent Freezoner's". Virginia's decision to begin posting, could be compared to "walking straight into the tiger's lair". 18 September -more contrary facts presented by an identity, re CBR's death From: Huggie </groups?hl=en&q=author:huggie%40pop.ihug.co.nz+> (huggie@pop.ihug.co.nz <mailto:huggie%40pop.ihug.co.nz>) Subject: Capt. Bill: The White Thetan Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology </groups?hl=en&group=alt.clearing.technology> View this article only </groups?hl=en&selm=3ba82916%40news2.lightlink.com> Date: 2001-09-18 22:11:53 PST >"Another bit where he says his tyre was slashed. > > I was in comm. with a girl who was in his org. She said that he was in > >telepathic comm. with Ron and theta contact, even after he (Ron) died. > >S he also said that Bill died in a speed crash on an autoban. Anyone know > >abt. that?" 22 September -Virginia asks Bernd what CBR died from and Bernd replies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freezone" <freezone@freezone.de> To: "Virginia McClaughry" <vmcc@icehouse.net> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 1:32 AM Subject: RE: CBR EXCERPT > >How did he die really do you know? > > Yes, he had cancer and he refused medical treatment. In that time he lived in Swizzerland... gave quite some lectures to transfer his technical knowledge to auditors and C/Ses. ml Bernd ** So apparently CBR supposedly "died" in "Swizzerland". Erica and Max's neck of the woods. The bit about "he refused medical treatment" sounds very non-scientologist to me for some reason, more like standard psych/doctor party line. Later on 22 September ----- Original Message ----- From: Freezone To: virginia Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: RE: question Bernd, (Bernd) I guess the legal view on copyrights is slightly different between Europe and the US. In Germany as far as I know none else then the actual author can have it. I put Otfried on the cc line because he's a lawyer and he can answer this more korrectly. As far as we are concerned (Free Zone Assoc.) we purchased the rights (rights for distribution, use, etc.) from CBR's heir in 2000. (virginia)*Ok, I'm confused though. Because as you see Erica said there ARE no copyrights, so why would they need to be purchased by the Free Zone Assoc? But also why did the free zone assoc want to buy them anyway, to do what? I don't get this at all.. (bernd) We have to differenciate here... we didn't purchase the copyrights... we purchased the "use and further distribution of the material". The idea behind it was that we don't get in danger in case CBR's heir possibly dies and some inheritant denies us the use of it. Now we are on the legal side of it. We have a contract saying that we are allowed to use the material. I don't know how someone could make a move on it? (virginia) *Yes, with what you said, this seems even more odd now. Perhaps maybe the person was meaning your move in buying the rights? I'll see if I can find out more. But that's the only thing I can think of, except it doesn't make much sense. BTW, who is WE (the Free zone assoc)? I read about it a while back when I was first exploring your site, but I didn't see any names, even though from the newsletter it looks as if there is at least a few people that get together and make decisions or whatever, so I also don't understand what you meant by WE (in your comm above). Meaning is the free zone association run by, you, otfried, erica, max? I figure somebody(or somebodies) must run it, or else it would have never started! LOL (Bernd) A little bit of background to this: End of the 80s/beg. of the 90s the church gave us (the ROs in the german speaking area) a hard time... infiltrating several groups, involving them in copyright violations, etc. There was no third dynamic except the single ROs connected as a network. You know my background a bit... I was in the GO... same as Mike. I thought that there should be a 3D taking care of the ROs... with similar duties as the GO but without command powers... we didn't want to have another hirarchy telling others what to do. So I got 7 people together here in Munich and founded the Assoc. as a legal body. It's registered with the local courts (legal policy here). Then we announced it amongst the ROs and invited people to support us with their membership. Now we have about 100 members... some are voluntary members, not paying any membership fees and others are ordenary members supporting us financially. We use that money for our web-sites... for missions, for legal handlings etc. It's a budged of about 2000$ a year. One purpose of the FZ Assoc was to act as an interface to the society... critics, officials, media etc. Anotherone was to research the possibilities for the ROs to legally deliver without harrassment from the church. Erika, Max, Otfried... they are all members. This is the meaning of "we". Take a look at www.scientology.org for instance... there you can see what the FZ Assoc did concerning the name dispute ofer "scientologie" (the german and french spelling). Last year we won the dispute with the RTC. We even got some media on it: http://www.freezone.org/news/media/media-index.htm. That was one of the actions. Hope this explains it a bit? ml Bernd ** Note where Bernd says "CBR's heir". The only possible logical person that he could be referring to is Maria, but Maria is not his wife. Even with Common Law marriage, CBR would still have had to have "had" copyrights for them to even be an asset a heir could control. But yet as you see, there don't seem to BE any copyrights. And even if there were, CBR would have had to make a will as to their disposition, Bernd seems uninterested and unknowledgeable in that area, yet he and his association take the time and effort to "purchase the "use...."etc. Something smells there. Almost like establishing a precedent of ownership or "authorized use" of something that technically you couldn't do that with, in the first place. Similar to how the church lost the copyrights, then rewrote everything, copyrighted that, went around gathering up for "tech preservation" every original they could find, then issued in great volume their newer works, after copyrighting them, thereby establishing a precedent as being the CURRENT copyright holders and owners, thereby giving a point to attack from. Complicated, but simple at the same time, if you follow my meaning. 01 October --Bernd says he doesn't know about CBR's will. ----- Original Message ----- From: Freezone To: virginia Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: RE: question EXCERPT (virginia) But I guess I still don't understand why Erica said there are no copyrights on CBR materials, cuz there must be or why would there need to be a contract to buy rights to use something that isn't copyrighted? See my point? (Bernd) Probably because someone has to explicitly get them copyrighted... and also give a copy to some Library? I'dont know. As I said... it's a bit different here in Europe. (virginia) Also, didnt CBR leave a will, it must say in there what is to be done? It would have had to be recorded somewhere I imagine, as part of probate. (bernd) Don't know about it. Never saw it. ** Note the "end of discussion" there by Bernd on the subject of wills, probate, CBR death etc. "Never saw it" could be because Last edited by Virginia McClaughry on Mon 21 Oct 2002 11:06 pm; edited 5 times in total Author: misiunas, Posted: Mon 23 Sep 2002 1:04 pm Subject:
I guess that about wraps it up as to the 'WHO' that is involved. Lately, I was thinking that Homer was involved just because of his close ties to fz ev in it's beginning stages as well as his hosting of Bernd's site. The corelation between 'Electra' and Ralph Hilton was interesting. Very interesting. Ralph makes no bones about letting people know that he is 'up' on aninimity and 'privacy' As a matter of fact, I've got a few posts of his waiting to go into the database where he talks about his 'Free Zone' remailer and such. There are a number of questions that remain unanswered, and when the 'no one knows anything' mentality is assumed, it can be looked at as a good indicator. Your post is MUCH better than my attempt at sorting things out, But then again, I really dislike doing that sort of thing anyway. I'm glad I got you to respond and to fill in the rough spots. Please continue...
Author: Virginia McClaughry, Posted: Mon 21 Oct 2002 9:28 pm Subject: Updates to timetrack as of October 22, 2002: Daniel McKeown entries added Virginia Author: Virginia McClaughry, Posted: Mon 21 Oct 2002 11:10 pm Subject: Note to readers-until I can figure out how to keep it all in one post, I have to seperate the timetrack. The end of the first one, should read: ** Note the "end of discussion" there by Bernd on the subject of wills, probate, CBR death etc. "Never saw it" could be because it never existed, is one strong possibility. 2002 15 May -Ralph Hilton states where the "Freezone" is based. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Hilton" <aon.912202928@aon.at> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: FREEZONE AOs COS Fairgames. The Freezone is based in Germany, Switzerland and Austria. They can play their silly games in America but have no faintest hope in Hell over here in Europe. -- Ralph Hilton ** Here we have Ralph putting some locations to where the coopted and propagandized "Freezone" is based. In these areas key personnel-wise we have: Germany: Bernd and Doris Luebeck Otfried Krumpholz Switzerland: Erica and Max Hauri Austria: Ralph Hilton ------------------- Virginia |
