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What Really Happened on COSI - Part IV Author: David Griffin, Posted: Wed 18 Dec 2002 9:21 pm Subject: What Really Happened on COSI - Part IV In Part I, we examined the lead-up to Virginia becoming the listowner of COSI, and the rather sudden turnover of the list by "Levi Murphy" to Virginia, and the odd manner in which this occurred. Among the various things that occurred on the list, one of them was a Problem, Reaction, Solution scenario, run on the list by a group of agents. Problem - lies were told by various identities Reaction - Virginia told them to correct their lies Solution - When the lies were not corrected, the person was unsubscribed. ------------------------------------------- In Part II, we saw that Alan Walter became upset when Mike McClaughry discussed defeating Psychic Warfare with ethics, and that Alan Walter was working with Pat Price in 1968, who later went to work for the CIA at Stanford Research Institute (SRI), working on Remote Viewing experiments. We also saw who Alan Walter apparently considers to be "past enemies": The Psychs The Nazis The Jailers The One-Worlders The Between Lifers Beings involved in Psychic Warfare The Illuminati The IRS The FBI The CIA The NSA ------------------------------------------- In Part III, we saw that one of the other key players on the COSI list (Joe Harrington) was a trained government intelligence agent, who was specifically trained in counterintelligence (among other things), and had a TOP SECRET clearance at the time he got on-lines at AOLA in 1976, and did several OT levels. We also saw that Joe Harrington had, in 1988, become involved with the Monroe Institute, and was still connected to them at the time he was on the COSI list. We also saw that the Monroe Institute was connected, once again, to the CIA through Remote Viewing experiments, and that Joe and Bid were both receiving training from the Monroe Institute. ------------------------------------------- And now onward to Part IV... ==================================== Besides U.S. Government Intelligence and the Monroe Institute, Joe was also connected to some others. In the following post done by Joe, he signs it as a member of the "United Free Zone Alliance": From: Joe Harrington <harrington_j-smtc%NOVA.NOVANET.ORG@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:00:00 EDT Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Subject: Re: Going Exterior/Monroe Institute "The Monroe Institute has been a non-profit organization for over 20 years... [snip] ...I have used the materials described in the "advertisement" Charles posted and I found them to be an invaluable tool for anyone interested in exploring states of expanded awareness and alternative realities. Joe Harrington United Free Zone Alliance" --------------------------------------------------- And shortly afterwards, Homer posted as a member of the same group: From: homer@crl.com (Homer W. Smith) Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:30:55 -0700 Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology,alt.religion.scientology, Subject: Scientology and the Internet "Here is my answer to Mr. Thomas Small. First is my paraphrase of his letter to me, and below is my answer. I have not sent this yet, so I welcome comments from the net, both public and private, which will be considered before the final version is posted. Homer [snip] Homer Wilson Smith United Free Zone Alliance" --------------------------------------------------- However earlier that year, Homer had posted the following talking to Joe Harrington about the group he was already connected to: From: Homer Wilson Smith (CTM%CORNELLC.BITNET@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA) Subject: Joe Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Date: 1994-02-17 14:02:35 PST "Joe, Thanks for the answer. About our group in short: It is called "Freie Zone e.V." (Free Zone registered Assoc.). Here an extract of our self-description. It's members come from various scn-traditions as you might call it. Purpose is not the defence of a single scn-direction but to set up a kind of umbrella organization. Goals This association is an initiative by the supporters of cognition-philosophies. A philosophy of cognition has to do with the change and devolpment of persons through self-achieved cognitions..." ----------------- So while Joe had U.S. Government Intelligence connections and was working with the Monroe Institute, and Homer worked for the Cornell Theory Center, one of four U.S. supercomputing centers which received funding from DARPA, we also see that Joe and Homer were working together as part of the same group in the "freezone", and the Freie Zone e.V. is the group which was formed within the Ron's Org network in Germany, right after Captain Bill departed. And it was apparently Homer, posting as "Electra" who began to publicly redefine the term Free Zone into something entirely different than what it really is: From: Electra@vfz.anonymous Date: 28 Jan 92 00:23:33 GMT Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: THE FREE ZONE "THE FREE ZONE Copyright (C) 1992 A Voice of the Free Zone The Free Zone is a huge sprawling loosely connected system of Independent Scientologists, those who were either once part of the Church and left or were booted out, and those who came into Scientology through contact with the Free Zone." ----------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homer Wilson Smith" <homer@lightlink.com> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Prometheus and Electra - Part IV "Jontu, Why all this trouble? I admitted I was Electra ages ago." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homer Wilson Smith" <homer@lightlink.com> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Prometheus and Electra - Part IV "That Electra and myself for that matter took the word Free Zone and put it into the public domain by redefining it in a broader more general sense that would appeal to more people is forgivable." ==================================== An interesting question would be why, since Homer was obviously connected to Bernd Leubeck and the other RONS Org people in Europe who knew precisely what the Free Zone really was, would Homer begin to redefine the term Free Zone into meaning a nebulous group of "independents", totally obscuring it's true meaning and ramifications thereof? And why would the RONS Org people Homer was connected to, allow this blatant attempt to sabotage the social impact of the Free Zone Decree, to go unchallenged? These events were taking place shortly after Captain Bill left, and it even appears that Joe Harrington was somewhat involved as well: From: Homer Wilson Smith <CTM%CORNELLC.BITNET@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:02:35 EST Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Subject: Joe ((Here are some collected postings from Joe over the past few days. Sometimes I am responding to him, so you just have to guess who is him and who is me and who is others. It should be obvious from the header.)) "hOMER, A couple of more answers: You asked "why me?".. Well, apparently you do not remember me, but I certainly remember you. ...I'm still interested to hear what occured in Mar 91, when you have the time. ...I learned some interesting data about Capt Bill's situation and it certainly filled in some of the missing pieces in my puzzle, and my non-confront of what had to be done. ...I'm still sorting out this Capt Bill thing, reviewing my journal and comparing dates, events etc. 1990-92 were perhaps the strangest times in this entire lifetime. ...I received today several floppy disks with the Sector 9 and Teegeeak series from Homer. I can't download files with my present setup. I'll be reviewing these files. It would appear I will be picking up the hat of Capt Bill when he left..." ----------------- Joe says above that something occurred in March of 91 which Homer knows about. The "official" CBR eulogy written by Flemming Funch says that Captain Bill "died" on 12 May 1991. According to the Free Zone timetrack: http://www.scientologyintegrity.org/htmldocs/tt/1991f.shtml Berndt Leubeck said the following: "In 1991, short after Bill Robertson died, we started the Free Zone Association".-Bernd "In 1991 we founded the "Freie Zone e.V." as a registered association." -Bernd Homer's redefinition of the term Free Zone occurrred on 28 Jan 92. Joe Harrington, government trained Intelligence Agent connected to the Monroe Institute since 1988, tells Homer he will taking over for CBR in Feb. 94. As it turns out, Joe himself was in comm with the RONS Org people as well: Message 16 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Sun Jan 30, 2000 3:16 pm Subject: Re: Captain Bill Robertson "I have read most of the public and confidential materials that CBR authored and I have listened to several of his tapes. The Free Zone Assn in Germany have their own website and their focus is on Bill's writings. CBR created the "Excalibur Bridge" and use a modified version of the orthodox NOTS. CBR's supporters stayed with LRH's unedited version of the Clearing course and the OT levels I, II, and III. Over the last 7 years I have corresponded with many of his supporters, several who knew LRH and CBR personally. They operate under the auspices of a somewhat secretive RONS Org network." ==================================== Two of the more active posters on the COSI list were Joe Harrington and Alan Walter, who himself seems to be friends with various governmental agencies, as well as connected to a "committee" of key players in the "freezone" including Homer Wilson Smith and Ralph Hilton: From: ralph@hilton.org (Ralph Hilton) Subject: FZ A goes international? Date: 1999/04/29 Message-ID: <377be705.382435452@mgate.telekabel.at>#1/1 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.34.1 Organization: [clear-l] Art Matrix - Lightlink Electra Gateway V2.6 Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology "I talked to someone tonight who is willing to provide 5Gb of web space for a new site. That person is personally known to me and is a very stable terminal in the FZ. That person wishes to remain anon and will have a vote. In negotation we agreed to create a new web domain with a yet unspecified name. The committee members who will have a vote in what occurs with that web site will be, if they choose to involve themselves, : Me Homer Enid Ra/Zero Christine LR1467 Pilot (If he/she wishes to participate) Anon hoster The list is from those we both agreed as trustworthy." ----------------- Could this "committee", which includes Homer and Ralph and others, be related to or the same thing as the "United Free Zone Alliance", or the "umbrella organization" which was set up in 1991? The new domain (fzint.org) was registered about a week later, and again, we see a reference to a group or "committee": http://www.fzint.org/ "This site was created for the purpose of providing information, resources and assistance to those interested in practicing clearing technologies outside of the Church of Scientology. The site is maintained by Ralph Hilton based on the content agreed upon by a group of Freezone practitioners." ----------------- But despite the fact that Ralph is in Austria, the domain is registered to someone in Dallas, Texas, and is hosted on computers in Texas - Alan Walter's location. As Ralph said: "I talked to someone tonight who is willing to provide 5Gb of web space for a new site." Domain Name: FZINT.ORG Registrant: Pam Reynolds (FZINT-DOM) PO Box 701021 Dallas TX,75370 US Technical Contact: Hostmaster, InstantISP hostmaster@INSTANTISP.NET InstantISP.net P.O. Box 890 Midlothian, TX 76065 (817) 477-5692 ==================================== Getting back now to the COSI list, what exactly was the basis on which the list was supposedly formed? Message 1 From: Confront23@aol.com Date: Sat Jan 29, 2000 6:43 pm Subject: Welcome to my new list. In this list we are investigating many unanswered questions, such as: 1) Is current managment corrupt? 2)Whats the real story about the death of L Ron Hubbard? 3)Is the tech being altered? 4)How are we going to remedy this situation if it does in fact exist? 5)Who really controlls Scientology presently? And many many more. This is not a list for people to just invalidate the religion of Scientology. If you are on this list, it is assumbed that you already agree with LRH's Tech. We are just looking for answeres and discussing them. You can disagree as much as you want to-as long as you are "on-topic" --------------------------------------------------- We see above, that "If you are on this list, it is assumbed that you already agree with LRH's Tech." Aside from the obvious misspelling, it is clear from this statement that the list was designed for those who agreed with LRH tech. Or at least... it was designed to pull them in. Despite that obvious qualification, Phil Scott (a long time critic and anti-Scientologist) was on the list posting things like this: Message 286 From: "Phil Scott" <philscott88@hotmail.com> Date: Sun Feb 27, 2000 12:05 am Subject: Re: (continued from "Consolidation of my replies") "Your first step imho would be to cease defending hubbard, look instead for areas of possible serious flaws...that will blow off some of the brainwash and open your eyes. For my view see the Beyond the Black Magician series I wrote. Homer archives it and so does Frice." ---------------------- "Konchok Penday", long-time critic and anti-Scientology identity was posting things like this: Message 434 From: konchok.penday@net-prophet.net Date: Thu Mar 16, 2000 7:17 am Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Very interesting. "GET A CLUE, IDIOT! You know NOTHING of the history of consciousness. El Rat Humper was a johnny-come-lately *FRAUD*. His accomplishment was: 50 YEARS OF LIES! NOT ONE "CLEAR"! NOT ONE "OT"!" ---------------------- Ed Hammerstrom, long-time Avatar proponent (Scientology deprogramming) and Scientology critic was posting things like this: Message 409 From: Ed <metasyn@catskill.net> Date: Sat Mar 11, 2000 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] I found this-even more interesting! "Independents, especially in the LA area, voraciously gobbled up all manner of new age books trying to sort out where the bits of truth might be. It truly was and is a mishmash very hard to grasp, as there are just too many conflicting bizarre accounts of things. Anyway, from about '84 on, the independents explored the channeling process and what a number of channeled sources had to say. To make a long story short, LRH's OT3 story and other specific accounts of past track are generally either outright fiction or are peculiar to his own experience, not parts of everyone's track." Message 428 From: Ed <metasyn@catskill.net> Date: Wed Mar 15, 2000 1:34 pm Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] this is also very interesting "The OT levels are purely a fraud and deception meant to entrap and enslave free beings. Read that again. This is not to say that the processes in most of the OT levels are harmful, but the whole program is to, by deception, indoctrinate you to believe you are NOT a Clear and free to live your life however you choose in all its complexity, but a devotee to be used and abused by a higher-class being for selfish purposes." ---------------------- And Joe Harrington, government trained in counterintelligence, was posting things like this: Message 289 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Sun Feb 27, 2000 1:41 am Subject: Re: Consolidation of my replies. "Yes, I agree and if the Xenu cosmology and body thetans was/is an actual situation for some people, I think they should be free to pursue it in any way and for however long they they want. I just object when its forced on others as a mandatory step, as LRH did. Once could go quite mad running with someone else's fantasy about them." --------------------------------------------------- Curiously, the above type of posts and activities were allowed to continue unchecked by the listowner at that time, "Levi Murphy", despite the initial statement regarding the list of: "This is not a list for people to just invalidate the religion of Scientology. If you are on this list, it is assumbed that you already agree with LRH's Tech." As we saw previously, the second person on the list was Joe Harrington, and the third was his wife Birgitta, or Bid. It would appear that one of Joe's purposes on the COSI list was disinformation on the subject of government and intelligence agency interest in Scientology: Message 152 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Wed Feb 16, 2000 3:04 pm Subject: Re: SV: Re: Read about discrimination on other lists! (Lo... "...I'm rather skeptical about the conclusions of the anon "government plant". This seems more like some OSA disinformation created as a shore story to somehow divert attention from the real issue of the illegal activities of the GO under LRH and MSH by creating a scenario of Men In Black sneaking into the orgs after hours. Afterall, Hubbard believe that SMERSH was a real organization! ...Most U.S. embassies have a resident FBI agent assigned to assist on investigations of matters involving U.S. citizens and the CIA is the agency authorized to conduct foreign intelligence gathering on matters of interest to the U.S. So FBI or CIA interest in Scn, based upon bona-fide complaints by family members or friends of Scnists working for LRH would have been quite reasonable. And considering Scn's deceptive practices and total lack of cooperation with any outside investigation, it would have been quite lawful and appropriate if a law enforcement agency placed an undercover agent into the organization to determine the validity of the complaints that were being received from family members and friends back in the states." ---------------------- When questioned directly on the subject of counterintelligence and disinformation activities, Joe responded thusly: Message 183 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Thu Feb 17, 2000 12:33 pm Subject: Re: SV: Re: Read about discrimination on other lists! (Lo... >Finally, why are you so hell-bent on disclaiming any >government interest in the OT levels? Me thinks you >protest too much. > >You spit too much venom, which stains you. > >It makes me suspicious and tells me I am on the right >trail. > >You're into RV. Do you have a background in military >intelligence? "Yes, I have an extensive background in military/federal govt intelligence and we have conducted RV projects on Scn targets worldwide. But thats no deep dark secret. Joe" ---------------------- Ed Hammerstrom, who personally got a number of people out of Scientology and into Avatar (which he claimed was "THE antidote to Scientology"), also seemed to be supporting Joe Harrington. Notice below that Ed would have the reader assume about Joe Harrington's posts that they "are written sincerely and not as evil fraud" (the only two choices he gives us), despite the fact that Joe was trained in counterintelligence (disinformation), and there are numerous instances of Joe directly contradicting his own statements: Message 626 From: Ed <metasyn@catskill.net> Date: Thu Mar 23, 2000 1:37 pm Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Remote Viewing "...I think you are coming from a place where you start with a fixed datum or idea about the CIA/RV/etc. conspiracy stuff as per Veritas and anything else just bounces off and doesn't impinge on you. ...Reread Joe Harrington's posts about the RV subject in COSinvestigations, again assuming they are written sincerely and not as evil fraud. There is no one I know of who has ever said with any authority that anything in LRH's OT levels could be used to train people to develop RV abilities. ...What they, and you, need to cognite on is that things really are, almost all the time, what they seem to be, rather than some improbable complex of hidden things which one has to be in an excessively mental head trip to put together and which depends on the premise or postulate that everything you see is not the reality and the reality is something else you have to figure-figure to get to." ---------------------- It appears that Ed would have the reader believe that there are no hidden influences nor people working behind the scenes, and that everyone publicly announces their true intentions to the world at all times. In other words, "There Are No Conspiracies!" and anyone who believes that there are is on an "excessively mental head trip". It would appear that another of Joe Harrington's purposes on the list was identifying any potential leaks of "classified" information, or any potential "threats" to ongoing classified projects. In response to a post by Mike McClaughry, Joe posted the following (excerpted). Some of the comments in quotes are from Mike's previous post to which Joe is responding. Curiously, the majority of Joe's questions sound a lot like someone interrogating a witness on the stand: Message 243 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Thu Feb 24, 2000 5:18 pm Subject: Re: Consolidation of my replies. Hello Mike, welcome and thanks for your input. I will shift into the Devil's Advocate/Debriefer seat, at times, to address some of the issues you brought forward. I promise I will be the ever present gadfly. "My wife posted part of our knowledge of squirreling by David "Miscavige/RTC earlier today." Virginia's account of her experience while tragic, is unfortunately all too common. But I'm still somewhat speechless about the magnitude of it, and will comment on in it the near future. She is one TOUGH person! Vaughn Young's recent essays on abuse and self-abuse in Scn is another topic that several of us with good track records as auditors, especially Alan Walter and a few others; will address in the near future, along with some possible remedies for the many who have experienced the same or similar. Alan Walter has piloted some very effective remedies that addresses abuse in general, and the specific self-abuse and abuse inflicted on people as part of their Scientology experience. ...OSA personnel have been provided with the instructions for subscribing to this list and I'm sure their Net Monitors are forwarding daily summaries to OSA Int and the RTC. ...During your time in the GO, was it your belief that someone besides LRH and MSH exercised control over the GO operations worldwide, prior to and after the 1977 FBI raid? Do you then do or do you now have any reason to believe that LRH or MSH had no prior knowledge of the plans to unlawfully obtain ongoing investigative files relating to LRH's and MSH's personal income tax matters and the status of Scn's 501 C-3 application from various U.S. govt agencies, plant listening devices, and that they did not participate, directly or indirectly, in planning the coverup and obstruction of justice after Meisner was arrested, and LRH's subsequent flight to avoid responsibility or questioning? "This is what I (Mike McClaughry) would like to say about it: Bruce Rothwell is the plant I caught trying to get onto AOLA lines to steal the OT levels. The 100 guys he said were waiting at the Air Force base in Georgia, were not military intelligence people. They were just ordinary military personnel. Only Rothwell and his case officer were military intelligence. (edited) I told him that even if they had the OT levels they would not make any OTs and their plan would not work. He could not imagine why that would be. I said because of ethics, because beings were basically good, and I couldn't see anybody making case gain over an evil purpose like he had in mind, for gaining OT abilities. He did not understand that, to my dismay, because I wanted to discourage them from pursuing this idea any further. In any case, we denied him access to the AOLA and sent him on his way. For whatever it is worth, there is the data." Thanks greatly for that clarification Mike.. Are you aware that in the early 1960s, LRH made a proposal to the White House to train astronauts for the space program, (cash in advance only) and that in the mid 1950s he was making inferences that he could, thru the use of his "OT" powers", neutralize incoming nuclear missiles and he suggested that Scn would be a valuable asset for the national defense of the United States? Are you aware of his remarks in a Briefing course tape in the early 60s, in which he provides an account of his recent visit to the implant stations on Mars and what the radiation is like in the Van Allen belt, which he had recently visited? Do you think the government put a lot of credence into his representations at that time, or later? Were you able to verify that Bruce Rothwell was in fact on active duty as a military intelligence officer and that his case officer was a real person and involved in military intelligence operations? If Rothwell was trying to get on to AOLA lines, can I assume that he had completed his lower level auditing and the AOLA was his next organization for services? Was he security checked by the GO? At the time, were you or any of the GO personnel aware of the fact that members of military intelligence departments are forbidden to conduct any domestic intelligence operations or investigation in the civilian sector, and that their activities and jurisdiction are restricted to the on and off base activities of active duty and retired military personnel, their dependents, and civilian employees of the U.S. military? If so, did the GO Legal file a complaint with the appropriate govt agency, indicating that the military was conducting intelligence operations in the civilian sector, in clear violation of federal law? I speak from experience on that point as I trained at the USAF Office of Special Investigation (OSI) Academy at Bolling AFB, in additional to federal investigation agency academies, including the Treasury Department, the U.S. Dept of Transportation, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, the California Department of Justice Academy, and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office. Did he indicate what, if any, OT documents the government was already in possession of and what additional OT documents they were seeking? In retrospect, did anyone in the GO consider it a bit unusual that a potential infiltrator from a hostile group would openly discuss his intended actions, and provide the details for them? During your time in the GO and during your later and most recent involvement with the HCO at the FSO, was it your perception that the HCO or OSA staff had no idea that since the late 1960s practically every HCOB related to the OT levels, including all of the NOTS materials were easily available outside of the organization for many years? Were you aware that since the late 1950s, while Hubbard was at the DC Org, that the FBI and the Secret Service considered LRH and the organization a potential threat to the security of the U.S. President and senior govt officials, by reason of the contents of the voluminous letters he wrote to the White House and the FBI, and some of the remarks that appeared in his HCOPLs,HCOBs and taped lectures. Were you or people in the GO aware that the FBI since the mid 1950's maintained an archive on ALL of the technical/adminstrative documents and taped lectures he authored, they had an extensive file on his military record, his Veteran Adminstration file, his petition to the Veteran's Adminstration to receive compensation for his mental condition, his educational records, his business history, his civil and criminal court history, his earliest lenghty reports to the FBI and Senator McCarthy's Witch Hunter Committee, on employees who he suspected were Communists and the Communist infiltration and ruin of the early Dianetic organizations, and his letter to various govt agencies in which he stated that representatives of the govt of Russia had offered him money and use of a laboratory in Russia so that he could complete his "research" ? Considering the above, would it have been excessive,unreasonable, imprudent or unlawful if any concerned govt agency authorized a covert agent or an overt source specifically to monitor the activities of LRH and the organization, for the purposes of maintaining an ongoing risk assessment? Are you aware that after LRH was declared an undesirable alien in the UK and subsequently fled to the high seas and his poltical antics in foreign ports became an embarrassment to U.S. embassies in the various countries that the Sea Org visited, that the CIA assumed the lawful jurisdiction for investigation of his foreign activities and that the CIA was privy to everything the FBI had previously compiled on him and his organization, including the bizzare Ron's Journal 67 tape and the GO directives he authored, declaring a war on the govts of the world in 1969? Considering that the U.S. govt and foreign govts had such information on LRH and Scn, do you think they were in a position to make an intelligent and objective evaluation of his mental state, the veracity of his claims, his achievements, his actual academic record, and an assessment of the technology and confidential materials of the OT levels, and if these documents were of a vital interest to the national security of the United States or any other govt, to the extent that it warranted a covert operation to acquire such documents? Other than the Bruce Rothwell incident, during your time in the GO or at any other time while associated with Scn, did you acquire any direct or indirect knowledge regarding any covert or overt attempts or completion of any attempts by any private person, or agent of a private organization, a psychiatric organization, or any local, state, federal, or foreign law enforcement or intelligence agent, for the purpose of acquiring any internal confidential documents related to the OT levels? During your time in the GO and your involvement with Scn, did you acquire any direct or indirect knowledge regarding any attempts or completion of the attempts of the administration of PDH (Pain Drug Hypnosis) and implanting of any staff or public, or new public, or LRH ? During your time in the GO and subsequently, did you have any knowledge that the GO and later the OSA were conducting a massive operation to compile documentation on misconduct or suspected criminal activity by the IRS or any of its employees and other govt agencies and employees, and that they were running ads in numerous Far Right newsletters, including the Spotlight Newsletter based in Washington, DC., and that they were offering cash and confidentiality to any private persons, federal govt employees or organizations who provided such information? Would such activities be consistent and "on-source" with the GO directives and HCOPLs authored by LRH, which address the tactics for dealing with groups and individuals considered antipathetic to LRH or the organization, and consistent with the mission of the Dept 20 ACHG (American Citizens for Honesty in Government) activities, as you understood/understand them? Thanks Mike, Joe ---------------------- After trying to invalidate the Bruce Rothwell incident (the military intelligence agent Mike McClaughry caught), Joe posted the following: Message 423 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Wed Mar 15, 2000 12:55 am Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Very interesting. "...Hubbard's hatred and scorn for anyone who was not part of his agenda or who in anyway criticized him or his organization seems to have broadly affected some of his most ardent supporters. even after they left the mother organization. I think Mike and others should consider doing some serious soul searching on this matter. I found the account of the military "intelligence agent" at variance from the questions I posed to Mike, and the CTT still carries the account of this incident in what I find little more than conjecture and not based on any substantive evidence. This whole focus seems to ignore the real sociopathic mindset of the creator of these insane policies that people before and after LRH's departure were enforcing. David Miscavige is NOT the problem and his departure will not change the cult-like mentality of Scientology. As long as the persona and mentality of LRH is an integral part of Scientology, is will remain hopelessly unreformable." ---------------------- Note the following words in Joe's statement above: "sociopathic", "insane", and "cult-like". In the following respose to "Levi Murphy", it would seem that Joe is still upset about the Bruce Rothwell incident: Message 490 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 1:33 am Subject: Re: SV: [COSinvestigations] Very interesting. "I'd like to address how you arrived at some of the conclusions you have posted, and the conclusions that the hidden authors of the THETA cluster have incorporated into the CTT that you want to promote. I called into question the credibility of the conclusions made about the Army "intelligence agent" that supposedly had occured at the AOLA, and it seems like the promoters of that version have vanished, and you give me evasive responses when I scrutinize some of your assumptions and conclusions." ---------------------- Notice above, Joe's statement of "I called into question the credibility". The action of "calling into question" or trying to place doubt in the mind of the reader regarding certain sensitive issues would certainly be one of the techniques of a counterintelligence or disinformation agent. http://www.assassinationscience.com/disdeb3.html "Disinformation involves the dissemination of incomplete, inaccurate, or otherwise misleading information with the objective, goal, or aim of deceiving others about the truth." --------------------------------------------------- Earlier on the list, Joe was specifically asking if anyone had any actual evidence of government or intelligence agency operations involving Scientology (something the government would be very concerned about). And in the following series of posts, we can see who was supporting whom on the list: Message 152 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Wed Feb 16, 2000 3:04 pm Subject: Re: SV: Re: Read about discrimination on other lists! (Lo... "If anyone, anywhere, has any direct or indirect evidence or a reasonable belief that any law enforcement agency or intelligence agency of any govt in the world ever infilitrated any Scn organization anywhere in the world for any other reason than to conduct an investigation of a bona-fide allegation of criminal activity or the part of Scn, please contact me." ---------------------- Message 153 From: "Alan C. Walter" <wisdom@cyberstation.net> Date: Wed Feb 16, 2000 4:30 pm Subject: Re: SV: Re: Read about discrimination on other lists! (Lo... "Hi Joe, Excellent document." ---------------------- Message 154 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Wed Feb 16, 2000 5:41 pm Subject: Re: SV: Re: Read about discrimination on other lists! (Lo... "Hi Alan, Thanks for you input. Your creditable background and experience is extensive and your participation is most valuable." ---------------------- And here are a couple of posts from Joe indicating his support of Alan's deprogramming techniques: Message 429 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Wed Mar 15, 2000 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Very interesting. "Here is something Alan Walter wrote in another forum, several years ago, regarding the cultic mindset that can be imbedded in some people and the impact it has on one's discernment and critical thinking skills: "It is part of the Cultural DeOppression and DeProgramming Procedures. The cycle goes approximately something like this..." ---------------------- Message 505 From: "Joe Harrington" <joeharr@mbox.sverige.net> Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 3:45 am Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Still finding more numbers for Joe "Alan Walter has had his Knowledgism organization in Dallas for many years. But he does not consider himself part of any "Freezone", nor does he offer any "lower" or "upper" Bridge. His biggest focus in recent years was developing effective methodologies from relieving former followers of Scn from the adverse effects of "Standard Tech" and the abusive practices of the organization." ---------------------- Seeing that Joe and Alan were supporting each other, and that Joe was in support of Alan's Scientology deprogramming operation, that would perhaps explain why Alan would say things such as this: Message 254 From: "Alan C. Walter" <wisdom@cyberstation.net> Date: Fri Feb 25, 2000 8:19 am Subject: COS Investigations "Gentlemen and Ladies, As this is supposed to be a list for investigation I would appreciate if there was not so much presumed guilty until proven innocent fixed idea-ing! Why are the IRS, FBI. CIA, NSA bad guys?" Message 4995 From: "alan c. walter" <wisdom@cyberstation.net> Date: Mon Nov 27, 2000 9:29 am Subject: Re: [COSinvestigations] Omission of plus-points "You by your own admission are fighting past enemies. > The Aliens, The Nazis, The Jailers, The One-Worlders, The Between Lifers, > The Illuminati, The Zionists, The FBI, The CIA. Yadda, yadda, blah, blah...." ---------------------- But before Joe unsubscribed from COSI, both he and Alan Walter were running headlong into something they hadn't expected - Virginia McClaughry. ==================================== To be continued in Part V David |