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Addressing my dead agenting by Virginia Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-11-26 01:55 Handling twisted meanings, innuendos, implications and lies from Virginia is a constant battle but no one ever said the price of truth and freedom was cheap or easy. Lets see what distortions she has fabricated about me lately. . >>>Marianne didn't miss anything on me. I have thought you had a personal agenda since you first came on the board and started attacking people. Nothing there to miss. I have nothing on it. >>>*Ok, so she did miss it then since it was there BEFORE you went. Your "nothing" on it was QUITE VISIBLE here today. Little late to try and say you "have nothing on it", dontcha think. No, in looking at it, the only thing I had was an act of omission about not challenging an outpoint when I first noticed it. The outpoint was your continuous attacks on any open communication or anyone who had the audacity to question you. It was when I got back that I noticed how insane it had gotten. You had already destroyed the old board and by my own honor I knew that I had to confront you on it before you collapse this board also. ?next- >>>See, ONLY agents and implanters act like you do, and yes, they HAVE been VERY busy. Quite the pool of agents and dupes out there. >>>But NOT all thetans are. Vast isn't, Paul isn't, I am not, Mike is not, etc. etc. What I am doing is trying to bring attention to someone who I believe is attempting very hard to stop communication and growth of other beings. I think that is your purpose and you seem to take some sort of perverse pride from stopping anyone who dares to address you. I do not think you are doing this for the tech. I think you are doing this for your own agenda and I don't think that agenda is clean. ?next- >>>CBR covered it quite well, markabians do NOT want aware, OT thetans, >>>organizing. >>>You can see why.. I know, that is why I think you are trying to ARCX the board and any new members to stop this group. ?next- >>>You said: You claim that you only expose agents yet you reduced your own board by what was it 70 %? My, my, my, that is a lot of agents. >>>*I say: Yes, sad, but true, a LOT of agents were there. LRH said that there is a term for people who see aliens and FBI agents all around them and that term was ? Psychotic My viewpoint on it is that most people who show up on this board are looking for case gain and info about it. The first thing they run into is your attacks. I think you are trying to stop the flow of people up the bridge. There may be some agents out there but 70%? -next- >>>You said: I don't have a clue what the Delphi/Delphian thing is about. >>>Of course you don't, because you don't "get" it half the time. >>>I say: Hey, thought you didn't "get" it on the Delphi thing? LOL. See, you DID >>>get it, you just tried to ACT like you didn't. >>>Gawd, you are getting truly ridiculous and boring at how you can't keep your >>>lies straight. What I was referring to was all this.>>> *There is no "the delphi" silly. That's not even good english. It is THE DELPHIAN SCHOOL or THE DELPHIAN FOUNDATION, or just "DELPHI" for short. But I forget when you are continuously altering whatever I say for your twisted little purpose you can't remember what the truth is. When I was there the people were calling it all of the above. What is your point? OH Yea. I forgot to destroy communication and dead agent me. ?next- >>>K Andreas/doris? (or whoever you are that english appears to be a second language for) Just more of your typical implication style. Its getting quite predictable by now. ?next- >>>Are you actually this dense? I answered already that I was NOT ever in the GO, or in OSA, why do you insist on lieing like that? I?m not lying. As I told you before, I don't normally read your posts. They are just too full of entheta for my taste. These are the first ones I have ever bothered reading and they are as I thought. I.e. full of entheta, enturbulation, innuendos, implications and lies. Your ability to twist words is simply amazing. I simply assumed that you were GO or OSA by your behavior. It is the same. ?next- >>>You said: I will let both LRH and CBR decide what our intentions and products are. >>>I say: "Let", in your sentence, is future tense. LRH and CBR already HAVE decided, and work with my friends and I, telepathically, directly, daily. >>>As to you, and their view of what you are doing? Let's just say, that you did not come out on the plus side, shall we say, currently. I know my intentions and products. One of the best ways to not have to worry about what positive people think about you is to not do anything that you are ashamed or afraid of people finding out. I have no worries. It is only people such as yourself trying to stop truth and communication that oppose me. >>>You said: I am boring with this game of your. >>>*Yes, You ARE boring, and this is getting boring as you can't seem to keep your lies straight and it's getting tedious having to repeatedly remind you of what you have said or not. You have yet to even find anything I cannot easily answer truthfully, no matter how you try to twist and contort what I say. Your intentional manipulation is easily traced by anyone so bored as to reread what was originally written in each case without all your tweaking and altering. It is all in the original form throughout the site. Once again I will leave it up to intelligent people to judge what they see and make up their own minds as to who is the manipulator and liar. If anyone wants to see what I said as 1 Flew Over that got me banned, all they have to do is look up my name in the membership list and look under my posts. I got banned for supporting open communication. Just like you are trying to do now. Your attempt to dead agent me is a joke. Well, lets see what other pack of your lies I need to dispel next. Your game and intention is easy to predict and your intimidation doesn't work on me any more. I EPed on the Virginia rundown. Author: virginia Posted: 2001-11-26 02:22 Curious about, Come, come, that's not CONFRONTING and correcting your Black Propaganda on me, that's doing MORE of it! So I ask again, are you going to confront and correct your Black Propaganda on me, including your recent addition? I believe you are perfectly capable of it, regardless of whatever case you may or may not have that is spurring you on in this current direction of attacking me, that you are taking. It's called... Personal ETHICS, which does not require any auditing or vanishing of case, to do. Perhaps you have heard of it? It's one of those three subjects, that LRH says a scientologist, or, thetan, will need ALL three of, to go OT. Admin, (data series is in that), is the OTHER one. BTW, Did you know that Justice, in a nutshell, is the action of putting more pressure on the person to NOT dramatize their case, than the CASE is putting on the person TO dramatize. Virginia Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-11-26 03:21 Virginia I am confronting what I see and feel to be correct. I honestly believe that you are trying to cut open communication by those on this board. I think you are trying to drive most people off the board. I?m not talking about those that are anti-tech like PJ but those who are pro-tech and have the audacity to challenge your actions or viewpoints. I understand now that this is a RONS Org board. That does not mean that it is correct to blast every curious newcomer or a person testing the waters outside the Cof$. The churchies already know what suppression is like. I also think it is quite amusing that you attack me and lie about me and then say I am Black PRing you. I know what my intentions are. My posts, which show my intention toward the tech, growth and auditing, have been on the board for over a year for anyone to see. The old board ran fairly clean for about a year before you showed up and, in my viewpoint, started creating chaos and had everyone pissed at each other. I think you are doing the same here. I think if left unchecked you will destroy this board or you will have it with you as the only poster discussing how right you were in running off all those others. I don't much give a damn about you, my concern is with the board and those viewing it. I apologize to those that I have enturbulated during this heinous game of yours. Most of us are just trying to work our way up the bridge. Some may not be as ?enlightened? as others. Some may be choosing an avenue different than yours but blasting them away will make sure that they never look in this direction when they are looking for their OT levels. I think somewhere in there your intentions may be correct but I think your methods suck. 1 Flew Over, Curious About ? & The Virtual Sexy Freezone Babe Author: punkfloyd Posted: 2001-11-26 04:22 Pardon me jumping in the middle with a semi-relevant comment.. > I?m not talking about those that are anti-tech like PJ Did you notice how much more quiet PJ and nice became on the new fzint board - when he was left alone and noone attacked him anymore? Sometimes(often) the "attack!attack!attack!grrrrr!" approach brings about results exactly opposite to intended. Unless turning this board into little Afghanistan was the intention. Then it worked perfectly. I'd suggest Virginia read up on Aikido (hmm... she might think this is yet another implanting technique. Oh well). punkfloyd Author: virginia Posted: 2001-11-26 04:54 Little testy there aren't you Punkie? Wonder what that's about.. Virginia Author: virginia Posted: 2001-11-26 05:19 Curious about, That's not correcting the Black Propaganda, (lies) that you said, nor is it even confronting it. Are you always this difficult at confronting your out-ethics, even to yourself? And as to your "beliefs" about this and that, those are NOT yours. That's CASE, as in NOT YOUR VIEWPOINT. But, the catch is, you can't SEE that, unless you decide to know how to know, and... LOOK. You have LOTS of talk, but NO CHANGE whatsoever in your actions, and/or correction of. You will not make it to OT with this kind of pattern of non-confront of your own out-ethics. (agreeing with your case). You simply take orders from the case in certain areas it seems, do whatever it tells you, and call it "your" viewpoint, and think you have said something "true". It was a lie from the moment you agreed it WAS "you", and once you put it into the physical universe? (verbally, action wise, etc) You entered the overt-motivator sequence, and now have to make it "right" in so doing. The way out for you,RIGHT NOW, without anything else, is ethics, as whatever this type of case is you so much agree with that you are it, will never be addressed by you in auditing. Because you ARE it, so it's a "look at what" then. Much like, you are doing repeatedly, over and over, in your Black Proaganda, Lies about me, what I say, and what I do, and why. I was invited to the old board, several times, by Vast, primarily as there were some factions there causing some problems. So I finally decided to go check it out. And, as it turns out, there was MUCH more of a representation of those factions, than ANYTHING else. So, are you going to blame Vast for the fact that unlike you, I can confront evil, and even take it on and bring it into the light of day where everyone can see it? And THAT's why he asked me there? Hmm? Well, YOU, wouldn't blame me, don't think I don't know that somewhere under all that case, you know what I am doing, and that I will stand up to your case, and you are silently cheering me on. That's why YOU hold on to this comm line so tightly. Your case has "other" reasons why it does what it does..LOL So, I wanted YOU to know I get it, but you are going to have to have some courage and stand up to your case, I can't do it for you. It's YOUR case, not mine, and the only reason it's spilling all over my lines is because YOU will not handle it. Again, you won't make it no matter how much some one else audits you, without ethics, and admin. I know this from observing some "OT-high number" OT's in action. I also know the difference when observing a real one, such as LRH. Now, I am taking the time to get some comm through, again, to the being I know is hanging onto this line, but the rest, is UP TO YOU. I hope you find out who you really are. AND ergo, who you are NOT. Good luck, curious about, and maybe someday you will even have the courage to post fully as yourself, full name and everything. Virginia Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-11-26 05:52 Virginia To start off; I am not concerned for myself about using my own name. There are quite a few others who would be put in uncomfortable situations if my name were known. I have lost enough friends through the insane rules of the Cof$. I may not agree with their affiliation but I still support and care for them as beings. I wrote this next part before I read your last post so it is not in response to it. I will respond to your post later. I am going to bed. Another Thought; It seems as though when beings get into a ser facy sort of, I can do anything I need to because it is for ?the cause? and besides they deserve it, attitude it sets up everyone who plays that game for a loss. Isn't that part of how we all got on this dirt ball in the first place? When things are done with ethics and honor the beings have much less that can come back and ?stick? to them later. If you are true to you and keep your intentions clean, attacks just fall away. That requires constant revision and updating of your viewpoint. That is why the Grades should be rerun many times as we progress; otherwise we just end up dramatizing what we have resisted or done to others or we just look for victories in our conflicts, rather than solutions. We live in a constant reaction. I am afraid our nation does this a lot. It is not my preference. Author: John Posted: 2001-11-26 06:05 Yes, virginia is always attacking some one. Author: misiunas Posted: 2001-11-26 10:13 I am going to remove any arbitraries introduced to "curious about's" topic so that it can run it's course. This means that I will remove all posts other than those from "curious about" and Virginia. Please continue... 
Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-12-02 03:07 Virginia OK, Where were we? I said, then you said, and then I said, then you said, OK I got it now. To start off; my concerns are not with Vast. I consider him an honorable man. I am sure that he had a reason originally to request your services. After a year of posting to the board, I never realized that it was specifically a RONS Org site until it was stated as such. I was under the impression it was an open site for people to learn about many forms of clearing tech and then make up their own minds as to what they wanted to do as they progressed. Simple personal KRC over their case. I think that a lot of people were perhaps peeking out of the Cof$ to take a look around at what was available. I visited the site for 6 months before I ever posted. I think it probably helped quite a few people decide to make the break from the suppressive environment of the Cof$ into the seemingly calm, open, sane Freezone. I realize that FZAO was using the board as an advertising medium. I am not a FZAO supporter but it seemed like a good idea on their part. They were promoting their product. I appreciate your comments concerning my case. I have done my ethics. I know who I am and who I am not and which part of me is what. Yes, I have case, never claimed otherwise. It is in process. That is the reason that I, and a lot of others, hang out around the Freezone. I work with the cards that I currently have while I reshuffle and choose the next hand. I have taken my time and gone back over posts over the last while and come up with the same opinion as before. I still wonder why you are intentionally attacking anyone who challenges you or your viewpoint. To me it is not technical, but personal based. The board has always had minor disagreements and that is part of a healthy interplay but if you are involved, anyone who questions your actions or viewpoint is called an agent. You manipulate, alter and twist communication for your purpose and if someone attempts to defend him or herself, you call them a liar. You say the damnedest things about others, in my viewpoint intentionally fabricated, and if they call you on it, you say they are black PR-ing you. New posters have to endure your attack and grilling when they try to post. I don't mean FZOA reruns and known antagos. When you give support it is theta, when others give support you snidely call it schmoozing. Your general tone to any but known RONS Org people is blatantly antagonistic and you seem to take a perverse pride in attacking others and driving them from the board. I am sure, that in your viewpoint, you have a reason for what you do. I simply cannot condone what I see happening. I have watched the board go from an open discussion group of quite a few members to around a half a dozen posters who just stay out of your way. I will continue to work on my case and I will show up occasionally but I know that I cannot offset the negativity that you create. I first thought that this might be some sort of ser fac on my part and truthfully I hope that time proves me wrong on my viewpoint of you. I hope that the board once again returns to a place where many people can discuss the tech, learn from each other and can progress up the bridge without continuous harassment and antagonism. I intend to continue with my bridge but will take my communication where I can freely discuss what I feel needs to be discussed without continuous harassment. Author: virginia Posted: 2001-12-02 03:27 Better words, same Black PR, Curious About. Your first perception of that it might be your ser fac, was correct, but obviously you don't want to control it yet, and have your ethics in on it. So, until then, you don't belong on this board. I sincerely hope that you discover the difference between you and whatever case, be it ser fac or not, that causes your view of what is put there in your universe as me, to be so clouded. Because it has to be affecting other areas of your life, and that is not survival. Good luck in sorting that out, and until then.. Virginia |
