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To communicate or NOT to communicate that is the question... Author: fr33d00m Posted: 2001-11-26 08:32 It is very sad that this forum has turned into it's own worst enemy. Ron wrote about the type of things going on here in his book Living though an Executive. He wrote... When it is necessary to establish a surprise element in an attack or to secure a portion of the group from attack, suppression of OPERATIONAL DATA is permissible to management. Suppression of any other than operational data can disrupt a group and blow management over. Any management which operates as a censorship or a propaganda medium will inevitably destroy itself and injure the group. A management must not pervert affinity, communication or reality and must not interrupt it. A management fails in ratio to the amount of perversion or severance of ARC it engages upon and its plans and the goals of the group are wrong in the exact ratio it finds itself "forced" to engage upon ARC perversion or severance of ARC in terms of propaganda or internal relations. Paul, Virgina, please read this. ARC, fr33d00m [ This Message was edited by: fr33d00m on 2001-11-26 08:32 ] Author: misiunas Posted: 2001-11-26 10:22 Hi fr33d00m. Can you be more specific about what you are referring to. I fail to see the grouping of Virginia and I along with the management quote - what are you saying? Many people here seem to be concerned about Virginia and of how she must be restrained. I fail to understand how communication has created this issue. Author: fr33d00m Posted: 2001-11-26 10:59 Paul, You are listed because you are Management for this list. You are the one acting as a censor. Virginia was listed because I checked the stats. She posts the majority of stuff to all these lists Most of her posting is 100% behind your use of censorship to stop communication on the lists. I also have a very hard time believing she is a trained auditor. Auditor training teaches one to listen...and not invalidate everyone who is not in 100% agreement with what you say. If she was ever trained in this it is obviously forgotten when she gets behind a keyboard instead of a meter. ARC, fr33d00m Author: misiunas Posted: 2001-11-26 11:22 and your suggestion is... Author: fr33d00m Posted: 2001-11-26 11:35 Communication! NO STOPS! Communicate to anyone about anything, anywhere. Let Virginia's attacks continue... but allow those being attacked to protect themselves. If this is an ethical organization then according to Ron they should be able to police themselves. The best answer IMHO would be open communication. I do not think that FZAOINT ever wanted to take over this board. They were attacked by Virginia. I think your website here is either in Doubt or Danger. Whichever it is you must decide. Then DO THE FORMULA  )
ARC, fr33d00m Author: misiunas Posted: 2001-11-26 13:01 fr33d00m wrote: >>Communication! >>NO STOPS! Oh, you must mean the 'free flowing' kind that Kevin Brady was talking about. You know, where people can be vulgar, continuously make off-topic posts, treat Virigina as if she is the cause of all their problems - that sort of thing. >>Communicate to anyone about anything, anywhere. >>Let Virginia's attacks continue... >>but allow those being attacked to protect >>themselves. Where have you been? You should look again because you are clearly missing what is going on around here. >>If this is an ethical organization >>then according to Ron they should be able to >>police themselves. According to Paul Misiunas there is no such organization involved here. But he doesn't exist.
>>The best answer IMHO would be open communication. >>I do not think that FZAOINT ever wanted to >>take over this board. They were attacked by >>Virginia. Oh, so you feel that it is correct for them to come here and make derogatory and vulgar posts. That is 'ok' in your book, I take it. That is not what you call 'open communciation', but control. >>I think your website here is either in Doubt >>or Danger. Whichever it is you must decide. >>Then DO THE FORMULA )
Very funny. This is along the lines of playing "Pin the Blame on Virginia." It's interesting to me when new members register themselves and start right in on whining and complaining instead of showing an interest in Scientology. It lets me know where they stand. And THAT has nothing to do with your favorite topic - Virginia. So far all you've done is whine and complain. Continue on that road and you will find that it dead ends here. On the other hand, perhaps you have a real interest in Scientology. If so, show it. Author: misiunas Posted: 2001-11-26 14:19 fr33d00m is FZAOINT's own Bob Hummel. Bob enjoys using throw-away email addresses and fake IPs in order to 'communicate'. This also explains the covert hostility and lack of interest in Scientology being demonstrated. Oh, but FZAOINT isn't to blame. It's ALL Virginia's fault and the lack of 'open communication', right guys? These are the people who enjoy creating turmoil, upset and whatever else they can in order to further their 'control' of the 'Free Zone'. Sad, but true. 
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