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responce to Virginia about Starved Artist Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-12-05 15:54 Virginia If the biggest mistake I make is to write up a positive reply to an infiltrator or agent or whatever, I can live with that. If perchance it is actually a person looking for a chance to go free and I help them, I can live with that also. Be Well Author: virginia Posted: 2001-12-05 16:32 Curious about, Not a bad answer, certainly a bit of an improvement. There is something you need to look at however, with the flippancy you display, re: someone not being what they appear. It's a kind of a "it's fine if they are an enemy, no problem for me" attitude, which is irresponsible, and violates a kind of natural law, per LRH. HCOPL Conditions How to Assign 20 October 1967 Section on Reciprocity: "It is more than policy that one gets the condition he fails to correctly and promptly assign and (italics) enforce. It's a sort of natural law. If you let your executives goof off and stay in, let us say, a Danger condition, yet you don't assign and enforce one, they will surely put YOU in a Danger condition whether it gets assigned or not. Remember that (italics) when your finger falters "on the trigger.". That natural law stems from this appalling fact. We didn't, a long, long, time ago, get in ethics. We goofed. And the whole race went into the soup where it reamins to this day. And if we are to live in this universe at all, at all, we are going to have to get in ethics and clean it up. Whether that's easy to confront or not is beside the point. The horrid truth is that our fate is FAR more unconfrontable. Now we have highly skilled tech to bail us out. And I assure you that that tech will never get in (italics) or be used beneficially at all unless: 1. We get ethics in, and 2. Unless Scientology orgs expand at a regular rate. Only then can we be free. So that's how and WHY you assign and enforce conditions. It's the only way everyone finally will win. L. Ron Hubbard Founder" You are being reasonable in the face of out-ethics of those that do NOT wish you to be free, who skulk and hide under the cover of "theta" etc, such as KGB, etc. etc. Whom, btw, you also fell for their act. You are wearing every one of these guys ethics conditions that you have failed to assign, which since they are usually in Enemy at best, that explains a lot as to your behaviour, which is also taken on the color of an Enemy. You also, will not make it to OT, with your ethics out to this degree. As LRH says, that may be hard for you to confront how important it is to get ethics in, but that's the truth, and whitewashing it or theety-wheetying it is a pretty cruel thing to do, in the long run. I sincerely hope you look at this. Virginia Author: starved_artist Posted: 2001-12-06 16:43 virginia, what's this? you're labeling me an agent? you're crazy. when i reach the level of OT i hope that i am able to be less paranoid than you are. Author: virginia Posted: 2001-12-06 17:05 Starved, You said: what's this? you're labeling me an agent? you're crazy. I say: Bit missed withholdy aren't you? I was talking to curious about, but YOU answer it. Sheesh. It is certain that you are not what you appear, so if it makes you happier labeling that as "agent", well ok. If that's what you prefer. Oh again, kudos on the sig! You know, it almost looks like a blend of various wavelengths, like a carrier wave arrangement. Is that possible? Virginia Author: virginia Posted: 2001-12-07 00:21 A view on people who say "you're crazy!", like starved artist did earlier. How to Win an Argument by L. Ron Hubbard "It is not entirely just to say that psychiatrists and psychologists have no technology. ...they do have one piece of technology. This is concerned with winning arguments. Anyone who disagrees with their planned totalitarian rule pronounced "insane"... ...Anyone who has any other idea than total social control is labeled "crazy". This at once disposes of the fellow of course. It invalidates his views and so gets them out of the road of "psychiatric progress" towards the Total State. ...There are only two things odd about this technology. One is that it is only used on people who speak of freedom or whose views oppose psychiatric ambitions. The other is that it cannot be called new. Even though a lot of Latin is employed to make the point, it is very difficult to find any difference between this technology and that employed by little boys. As almost anyone has always known, devoid of all Latin terms, when two little boys can't agree on some vague point little boys disagree about, one or the other since caveman times has always tried to end the argument by saying: "You're crazy!" Could it be that their whole technology has never really advanced beyond that of the neighborhood bully? ------- Virginia Author: curious about ... Posted: 2001-12-08 01:46 Virginia I acknowledge that you have something going on with Kevin. That is between you and him. I wrote an acknowledgement to Starving Artist about finding a twin and wanting to co-audit. I support such actions. It is my decision to help others who want to go free. It is also correct ethics to support what I feel is right. As I stated before, I know who I am and I know what I support and what I am against. I will continue to communicate to whom and on what issues I so choose. I still support Starving Artist in his pursuit. We have different realities and viewpoints. I operate from mine you from yours. |
