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Psych Drugs


Author:  Chris Benedek
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 01:11 am

I noticed in the section of the Freezone that had the Super Power Rundowns that someone mentioned something about Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors inhibiting emotion and changing brain structure. I had realized that these inhibited emotion, but didn't know that they changed your brain structure. That's scary!! Anybody who has any information about any Psych Drugs is encouraged to share it here with me. I'm talking about stuff that is known by Freezoners and not stuff you would find in a promotional pamphlet for a Psych drug. Data that the average person couldn't understand because of the esoteric terms used here. I was also wondering who Revenius was and if there is a Psych Drug Repair Rundown. One is needed considering there are quite a few people who have taken Psych Drugs, but have not received ECT, been lobotomized, or had some kind of hypnotherapy combined with drugs.

Chris


Author:  Chris Benedek
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 01:28 am

I mean, what happens to those guys who are FUBAR? I don't personally know anybody like that (Thank God!), but I've read stories about guys who are on Psych Drugs their whole life. We're not talking about Prozac here either. I'm talking about daily dosing of antipsychotics (Thorazine, Haldol, etc.) which is really nasty stuff. Often people are on combinations of these drugs too. They could be taught to be more cause over their case, but it's still there. It doesn't make any sense that someone has been coming along the track for eons and then they're suddenly totally FUBAR in only one lifetime. Maybe those guys will have to be Alligators or moray eels in their next lifetime. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Chris


Author:  complexio
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 04:36 am

Where is the section that has the Super Power Rundowns? Could someone give me some direction to it?


Author:  mike
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 08:48 am

complexio,

Try:

http://fza.org/LRH2/index.html

Mike
mike@fza.org


Author:  Chris
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 11:18 am

Are those Super Power Rundowns almost the same thing as the ones the CO$ is supposed to release in the near future, or are they something completely different with the same name? If someone could answer this I'd be mighty pleased!!

Chris


Author:  Chris
Posted:  Sun Dec 24 2000 11:25 am

Off the subject of Psych Drugs, can someone tell me of anything I haven't seen on the internet yet that I should see? I've seen all the $cientology OT levels and some of the really cool whole track stuff that the Pilot wrote. I've also ordered L-Kin's 3rd book and I looked at the Excalibur Revisited book. What have I missed that I must see and where is it at?

Chris


Author:  Kyle D.
Posted:  Mon Dec 25 2000 10:11 am

Psychiatric drugs are the pits. Many of the anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs fall into the excito-toxin category according to recent research. Some of these drugs will actually excite your neurons to death and rapidly age your brains. Long term anti-anxiety users are reporting huge cognitive deficits. Anti-psychotic drugs or chemical straight jackets will often cause Parkinsonian tremors and starts its users on the way to being like Muhammed Ali.
Really feeling your feelings is much better than supressing with that crud.

Peter Breggin, M.D. is a psychiatrist and a warrior against the drug companies that are destroying many lives. He has a website:
Http://www.Breggin.com/

He's the Freezone of psychaitry. He's written a slew of books and has been an expert witness before congress. Eli Lilly tried to smear him with pseudo black pr by calling him of all things a Scientologist. Breggin is right on about psychiatric drugs. They'll screw up your brain so some fat cat some pocket some change.

Clearing works better than drugs and so does feeling your feelings instead of supressing them.

Kyle D.


Author:  Chris
Posted:  Mon Dec 25 2000 12:18 pm

Hey Kyle D.!! What did you mean by antipsychotics cause its users to being like Muhammed Ali?

Chris


Author:  complexio
Posted:  Mon Dec 25 2000 07:40 pm

Mohammed Ali suffers from Parkinsons disease.
Neuroleptics like Haldol,Thorazine etc have
the nasty side effect of causing Tadive Diskinisia
with long term use. Tardive Diskinisia is a neurologic disorder that looks a lot like Parkinsons disease.


Author:  Eternity
Posted:  Sat Jun 23 2001 08:45 pm

Something very disconcerting is the fact that after 15 years after the first of the serotonin enhancers-Prozac-was put on the market, the precise reason they relieve depression is unknown. These drugs are theorized to work like this. Serotonin travels from one neuron to another by crossing a gap known as a synapse. Normally, once the receiving neuron is activated, the chemical is reabsorbed by the brain. But SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors. Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Effexor, Luvox and Celexa are a few) prevent this reabsorbtion, allowing serotonin to remain in the synapse and interact with its targets for much longer than it otherwise would.
Yet a crucial question remains: Scientists simply don't know why having a synaptic lake brimming with serotonin makes people happier. While there is evidence that some depressed people have lower levels of serotonin breakdown products in their spinal fluid and different brain anatomies from the overall population, the proof of the commonly held notion that a deficiency or imbalance in the serotonin system causes depression remains weak.
Harvard psychiatrist Glenmullen finds brain altering affects more unsettling than intriguing ("I think you have to accept that there's a structural change in your brain when you take drugs like Prozac"). Glenmullen who does prescribe serotonin enhancers when he deems it appropriate, likes them to such stimulants as amphetamines and cocaine-drugs that were once used widely, without fear of side effects, to give people more energy, improved mood, and increased focus. He is also convinced that SSRIs cause profound changes in the brain. When monkeys and rats are given Serotonin releasers-up to 40 times the dose that people generally take-the microscopic architecture of their brains look different from normal brains.

This is a little data excerpted from the newest Discover magazine. The title of the article is The Serotonin Surprise.


Author:  Ed Rhett
Posted:  Sat Jun 23 2001 11:16 pm

Ron covered this adequately, I think, with his thought, emotion, effort theory in Advanced Procedure and Axioms. I feel that if you read that book and understand it, you will see the danger of using powerful psychiatric drugs.

How the drugs work is pretty obvious. Why they shouldn't be used requires an understanding of what they are a substitute for.


Author:  punkfloyd
Posted:  Mon Jun 25 2001 01:03 am

Edd Rhett Wrote:
"How the drugs work is pretty obvious"

Can you elaborate? That's one part where I have found Scn explanation inadequate. (as discussed in other threads). Of course, taking drugs means ***you cease to take responsibility for your own mind set*** and that's not good news. But exactly why certain molecules affect people in certain very specific ways is still quite a mysetry, AFAIK.

Best,
PF

As o SSRI , Serotonin seems to excite certain groups of neurons in the brain that tend to be related to happiness. Why does it happen is not quite known but the effect itself is well established. The famous dance drug ecstasy has a similar effect but faster and stronger (www.ecstasy.org)