On creating events
Author: shogun
Posted: Fri Sep 07 2001 01:43 pm
Hello, people! Well, recent events in my life had me reflecting on past (well, sorta) events of my creation that I still find rather profound...for me, anyway..LOL One of the more fun ones was when I was about 10 yrs. old, and I went to a kid's party. The real motivation was for the parents to get together and drink...LOL Anyhoo, I was bored, so I got the other kids together and we did a raindance, really got into it...tons of intention. This was in July...hot and everyone was complaining about it. The next morning we had one full day of rain...I mean a downpour. Freaked me out. The next day, the hot dry weather resumed. My parents to this day still cant believe it.
Care to share any events you created that floored you? This could be informative and FUN! :-)
Author: John
Posted: Fri Sep 07 2001 07:09 pm
One time I caught a fly with a pair of chop sticks in King Wah.
Author: po
Posted: Sat Sep 08 2001 03:58 pm
I unzipped a fly with ONE chopstick.
Author: John
Posted: Sat Sep 08 2001 04:34 pm
I undid a bra with one finger.
Author: po
Posted: Sat Sep 08 2001 05:34 pm
I undressed someone with my mind.
Author: John
Posted: Sat Sep 08 2001 08:34 pm
touchete
Author: Scipher
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 05:05 am
Shogun,
I postulated my parents buy me a bike. They bought two (!) as a surprise present.
Another one is when I opened the door for my mom and asked off the top of my head - where's the cat? She then proceeded to take a cat from under her coat and showed it to me as if my foresight was nothing out of the normal.
Another time I was playing around with projecting simulacrums and scared my teacher. Wee-hee!
Author: Rudy
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 08:06 am
We control time, traffic, and weather.
Ever stopped a nice southern thunderstorm?
Author: Vector
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 02:52 pm
Im stuck on the idea f trying to control traffic lights.
sometimes i make it all the way home on one run
other times its stop start all the way.....
Author: shogun
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 03:39 pm
very cool, Scipher! Rudy, did you read my post on another thread about changing weather in L.A.? Been rather cooooool here for the last few days ;-)
Author: John
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 03:51 pm
I have been having control over my dreams as of late.
Author: Rudy
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 05:29 pm
shogun:-
Which one was that? Was that the rain dance as a kid or something else I missed?
Author: Scipher
Posted: Mon Sep 10 2001 10:43 pm
Are you into lucid dreaming at all John?
Author: John
Posted: Tues Sep 11 2001 02:48 pm
Hey Scipher.
Yes, I have some control over my dreams.
I would like to discuss more, but there has been an explosion here in Dayton. The pres. went over about an hour ago and refueled at Wright Patterson, and the explosion was in that direction. I don't have any data yet, it isn't even on the news, just happened, so I'll be back.
Author: Ian
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 12:50 am
I have just got Self-Analysis as recommended in response to my HELP thread.
Now the thing is, I'm only just getting into the Tech and learning about it, but these kind of manifestations are something I've been doing for years. I can attract cash (not heaps of it yet, but enough) create opportunities, help others who are ill (heal them sounds too egotistical) and so on. But I've been using a totally different method (or maybe I call it by different names) than postulating.
Can someone define postulating for me? My "method" is simply to get into a state of believing that the desired result has already come to pass - kind of like positive thinking taken to the ultimate level.
Sorry to add my 2p worth here. I'll butt out now.
Ian
Author: FreeThought^2
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 02:05 am
Ian,
my good man. (I am sure a few of you will agree with me, and possibly come up with better suggestions)...In this study, of life we call Scientology, always look to source first. Most of the good ( and workable opinions you will find will first be Source-based ) I f you are looking at non-Lrh tech, then look to who create that first....
For postulates, look for The tape ( or tech ebullition...it may be both ) called "The Positive Postulate." You will find it validating ( but so what, who really needs approval....? ) but it doesnt sound like you will learn much, because you've grasped that teaching on postulates rather well ( But you should see it for yourself to verify this on your own. )
Next, go find a copy from the Philadelphia Doctorate Course ( the sooner you discover this golden jem of wisdom,the better ) of the tape called "Q2: A thetan creates by postulates". This is one of the prime source tapes Scientologists use in understanding how postulates create reality. There are probably many good jems on postulates in the Saint Hill special breifing course as well...Vast? Virgina? anyone got recommendations here?....
And finally , the Church released a new lecture series from the early days it is calling "the vast technology of postulates" From its promo, it may be exactly what you want, but since I have not listened to them myself, I cant verify how thoroughly the series lives up to its name. Unfortunately, the church has a tendency to Pr its public about what is offers in materials, so you really have to see for yourself, how deep or thorough it is. But I would be surprised if you didnt thank me after looking up the Philadelphia doctorate course....Its very hard to hype this hard hitting OT data....if you like scientology, this, not confidential processes , is what you always wanted to know
Author: Virginia
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 02:19 am
Ian, in addition to the great references suggested by free thought, here is something for you as well.
Per the tech dictionary
Positive postulate: it's not only that there is no negative given attention to, but it does not assume that any negative is possible. (ESTO 6 7203C03 So II).
Postulate:
1. a self created truth would be simply the consideration generated by self. Well, we just borrow the word which is in seldom use in the English language, we call that postulate. And we mean by postulate, self-created truth. He posts something. He puts something up and that's what a postulate is. (HPC A6-4 5608C)
4. is actually a prediction (5112CM30B)
Hope that helps a bit, the PDC ref mentioned is probably the best reference for a lot of data on postulates.
Virginia
Author: Ian
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 03:54 am
Thanks guys. I'm glad I postulated your considered responses. 
Ian
Author: FreeThought^2
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 03:33 pm
Your welcome,
And Thank-You Virginia.
ps: Ian, as a newbie i wouldn't totally discount the church as a source of your bridge. Their tech does in fact work well on many people. Just be aware of the slant that may be there. Go find older books and tapes to use, ( which will deprive the squirrels who "edit" Lrh of income,)
I for one also think their new emphasis on drilling and application ("golden age of tech ") was a much needed improvement. I may not be perfect, it may be buggy, but it get s you to apply, and puts people closer to source,
and no I dont work for any church agency. But the hard truth is that for many people, if you have the $$$, and the stomache, the church is still the most convenient way to move up the bridge. If the fail you, you can always fall back on the freezone. I also intend to start a thread dedicated to wins from standard LRH tech, so that bashers who may not have "gotten it" do not distract people from reaching for authentic tech.....with arc to friends and opponents,
FreeThought^2
Author: John
Posted: Wed Sep 19 2001 03:23 pm
I went somewhere today, I can't quite describe it.
Author: punkfloyd
Posted: Wed Sep 19 2001 07:54 pm
FreeThough
The problem with the Golden Era of Tech is not in correctness or incorrectness of data it contains (there are many opinions on that). The problem is that it completely absolves any need to excersize *judgement*. You wind up getting audited by a *circuit* (in Dianetics sense).
best
punkfloyd
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