Stuff that I learned from the Freezone
Author: LTR
Posted: Mon Nov 27 2000 06:14 am
Without having an official definition on hand, the freezone is a word not unlike the "internet", which is actually a network of individual computers. The freezone seems to be a network of beings who are interested in practicing Scientology, but who do not like limitations placed on their freedom. I would not go so far as to say "practice Scientology outside of the offical management", becuse many, like myself, would practice inside of the official church if it were not so full of bearocratic stops and illegal off policy groups.
The freezone name seems to have been derived from Captain Bill's group which formed after the power power struggle of the early 80's, but subgroups in the freezone do not seem to be intimately related. (such power struggles are very common when someone dies by the way, inlculding fighting over a dead man's will. Of course, it is a new thing for such a struggle to contain as an element an entire religion and such high stakes as thousands of volunteers who had volunteered for nother cause completely than the one in which they now find themselves(a note for COS attorneys , this is a strong argument isn't it? Why not join us? A class action law suit would be worth lots of money)
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a new guy, not an old timer. Oldtimers, don't assume that we know what is going on. My information sources are limitted.
The freezone discussion board is not "the freezone", but it is a foundation for the freezone, since it is a communication line. A communication line cannot be suppressive, so even if the church should "find that the Freezone is suppressive", they would be laughed out of court for trying to stop the communication lines themselves.
Every suppressive knows the value of cutting communication lines, so that should make apparent the good that can be done by creating or supplying communication lines.
As for more specific stuff that I have learned, I'll have to admit that at first I had visions of a single comunication that if directed at the proper group would enlighten the group to the point of bringing that group back into cause. My more realistic view is that there are enough "well intentioned idiots" to try to stop anything in the name of "I just don't know any better."
More importantly, I learned of the political situation in the church, of the takeover of copyrights by illegal groups and using those copyrights to make stops. I have learned that even if "all of Scientology" is not responsible for the ill will that it is creating and even if "all of Scientology" is not responsible for it's overt acts, I am still willing to overlook a criticism of the group by one who doesn't know the specifics and only knows that these bad actions come from one scource which seems to go by the name of "Scientology". Besides a group is responsible for what happens in it's name, so the group is not guiltless on this matter. There will be a time however when this mis-association will be less acceptable, since the truth of who is really behind the corruption is slowly coming to light. In fact, it would take a dull mind to not see that there are specific individuals and illegal groups in the church that are responsible for the bad stuff, but a tolerance for dullness is part of being an auditor, since the auditor knows that this is not a permenent state, and hopefully he has the tools to fix it.
Author: misiunas
Posted: Tue Nov 28 2000 06:00 am
Excellent write-up! I'm glad to hear of your wins.
My view is that there exists a large amount of fear. Fear of the CoS seems to be a common thread in so many of the people who leave the church. My response to this is 'Who cares?'. Who cares what the critics or the CoS do. If a person wants clearing, they can get it. If a person wants training, they can get it. This has nothing to do with the CoS, it's adherents or it's critics. That's the bottom line.
Getting out from under suppression is not always easy. Sometimes, it just becomes a matter of what you are willing to put your attention on, and if it becomes stuck on some particular thought or idea - then recognise it and do something about it. To win the suppression game does not mean that you have to overcome the oppostion. All that needs to be done is to overcome your own fluidity (fixed attention). The rest will take care of itself.
Paul
Author: LTR
Posted: Tue Nov 28 2000 07:51 am
Paul,
The ability to audit, and accessability of auditting should continue.
You mention "fear" of the COS.
There is a tone scale to this.
As one goes up the tone scale his ability to differentiate increases. As his ability to differentiate increases, he is able to seperate data that was once identified. As this happens you get increased KRC. There are a lot of gradients up tone from "fear". At the top, there is the ability to make things go right. Those in fear, are in fear, and they offer little that is of value, including data.
"Skilled auditors" must continue to be an important statistic. Able beings, increase in case gain, tone scale, chart of attitudes(win, cause etc). These are all statistics. Statistics are just symbols of the real thing. It's the real thing that I hope that everyone here wants.
Author: LTR
Posted: Tue Nov 28 2000 05:59 pm
Ralph Hilton seems to have done a fine job of just making an org. Or you could just work on your own case.
It is possible to do both, progress on the bridge, and be responsible for the offical church. Or you could just interest yourself in other things, which is very cool too. Lot's of people doing lots of things is good. Lots of people not doing anything or trying to decide is not.
Author: LTR
Posted: Thur Nov 30 2000 11:51 am
IF someone doesn't really have an interest in how the COS is doing, but they do care about their own case, then it's not cool for me to be trying to recruit them for something that I do have an interest in. The people who DO have an interest in the chruch, ARE in the official church on staff, and those peopel do deserve to know the truth, not just PR.I like lots of them,which is why I DO CARE, But getting involved in the 4th dynamic situation isn't a prerequisite to applying some of the data. A mild interest in Scientology may not accomplish much, but there is a gradient, and to get someone involved in the political aspects of the church(which is a nice big game) who has other interests or other games, or even someone who was just yesterday "joe Homo sap" is an unrealistic expectation on my part.
Author: LTR
Posted: Sat Dec 02 2000 06:18 am
Even more important than any single thing that is said on a discussion board, is the fact that some communication is taking place. There is always theta comm, but that is an uncertainty to most.
As for which is most important, the tech or the politics of Scientology, the tech is WAY more important, but what is happening now here on earth is more urgent right now.
Author: LTR
Posted: Sat Dec 02 2000 06:28 am
Paul said:
Getting out from under suppression is not always easy. Sometimes, it just becomes a matter of what you are willing to put your attention on, and if it becomes stuck on some particular thought or idea -
then recognise it and do something about it. To win the suppression game does not mean that you have to overcome the oppostion. All that needs to be done is to overcome your own fluidity (fixed attention). The rest will take care of itself.
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To not be suppressed is a good target, and getting out from under suppression and free up fixed attention is a good target, and a person isn't really PTS if he has done that. (It may be the suppressives intention to fix your attention)
But what about the 3rd dynamic and even the 4th dynamic that IS suppressed by a bunch of weak idiots who will become very strong( isn't there a piece about such tyrants being monuments to the cowards who didn't say "STOP" when these were on their way up).
Author: misiunas
Posted: Sat Dec 23 2000 08:14 am
My apologies LTR, for not responding to your messages. December was just about completely taken up on creating the new site format. I'm on the tail end of that right now, so let's see what develops. :-)
>Even more important than any single thing that
>is said on a discussion board, is the fact that
>some communication is taking place. There is
>always theta comm, but that is an uncertainty to
>most.
I take the opposite approach. For me, the certainty always exists, it's just that it may not always be recognized as such in PT. That sounds kind of twisted, but there it is.
>As for which is most important, the tech or the
>politics of Scientology, the tech is WAY more
>important, but what is happening now here on
>earth is more urgent right now.
What better way to reach a spiritual goal than to begin at home? The dynamics begin to fall into place after that.
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