Re: Abused by Scientology?
From: ralph@hilton.org (Ralph Hilton)
Subject: Re: Abused by Scientology?
Date: 1998/09/20
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On 19 Sep 1998 15:13:36 -0700, martinh@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt) wrote:
>In article <3604909a.31430720@news.magnet.at>,
>info@sgmt.at (Spiritual Research Workgroup) wrote:
>
>>Please contact us FAST if you haven been abused by Scientology,
>>or otherwise want to leave this so-called "church". We can help!
>>
>>There exist already many people - in Austria of course, but all
>>around the planet as well - whom we not only could help through
>>their doubts whether to leave the "Church of Scientology" or not,
>>we also could show them ways to continue their spiritual progress
>>in the future WITHOUT accepting Scientology's financial abuses,
>>and the totalitarian way of regulating and dominating
>>their members' lives.
>>
>>There IS a (spiritual) future after Scientology. To be a little
>>more accurate, there are SEVERAL ways from which you can choose!
>>Call right now under ..43-2666-55415, or send a mail to info@sgmt.at,
>>and let us tell you what you can do.
>>
>>Nobody will ever gain spiritual freedom if he has to pay for it
>>with his spiritual freedom!
>>
>>Best,
>>Heidrun Beer
>>
>>http://www.sgmt.at
>
>I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with what you and Ralph
>are doing, but I think you should make it clear that neither of
>you are trained to help people leaving a cult, and I consider
>not pointing that out to people who might contact you for help to
>be unethical.
The first question is what would be proper training for such people.
>I also counsell people about Scientology, but I make
>it quite clear, upfront, that I have no training to do so, and
>can only relate my personal experiences and what helped me and
>might help others+. I also encourage them to seek professional
>help, as from a qualified exit counsellor or a center such as
>Wellspring.
How would you define "professional"? In what way are these exit counsellors
trained in a methodology which has a greater claim to competence than
Scientology? The same questions which are asked of Scientology here as to proven
validity of technology must surely be asked of such people.
>Would you consider doing the same, or are you certain
>of your own abilities to the extent that advising people to seek
>out other help is out of the question? Could this be offered as
>at least an additional route?
>
I should clarify that my approach is different from Heidrun's. The data on the
web site above clarifies her position and activities. I operate from a different
location and am not involved in the wider activities of the Spiritual Research
Workgroup.
I only work with people who wish to practice Scientology technology outside of
the CofS. That is quite clearly stated on my website.
I am a member of the "Freie Zone e.V." The purposes and avtivities of that
organization are clearly stated on http://www.freezone.de/index_e.htm .
My studies are in the area of Scientology. I make no claims to any
qualifications as an "exit counsellor".
I do not wish to direct people to other approaches as I have no personal
experience of a more valid approach. If people wish to leave Scientology totally
and abandon the technology then I am not the person for them to work with.
There are quite a few links on my pages to alternative sorces of information
regarding other approaches.
I see no substantiation whatever for your suggestion that I might be misleading
people unethically.
--
Ralph Hilton
http://Ralph.Hilton.org
