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Re: Scientology and Transformational Processing
From: Flemming Funch <ffunch@newciv.org>
Subject: Re: Scientology and Transformational Processing
Date: 1996/09/10
Message-ID: <v03007801ae5b9fcf0b8d@[38.13.221.100]>
sender: electra@light.lightlink.com
organization: Art Matrix - Lightlink Electra Gateway v2.4
newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Dimitri wrote:
>Here is a small discussion on similarities and differences between
>Scientology and Transformational Processing of Flemming Funch,
Well, some of the comparisons are quite valid, some are less so. However,
let me make a few points.
I deliberately haven't written a comparison like that myself, because I
insist that despite that I used to be a Scientologist and I learned a thing
or two there, Transformational Processing is NOT Scientology, and I'm not a
Scientologist, and I have little interest in attracting Scientologists to
what I do.
But yes, many of the elements are, at first glance, comparable. However,
one could write up similar comparsisons between Transformational Processing
and Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Buddhism, Hypnosis, Gestalt Therapy,
Transactional Analysis, General Semantics, and various esoteric philophies
and practices. Just as well as one could write up a comparison between
Scientology and magick, hypnosis, psychology and a bunch of other things.
And you would find many concepts that you can translate between these
different subjects.
Techniques of personal improvement tend to be successful to the degree that
they align with fundamental principles of life and the universe. What we
call them or which other subjects they are also mentioned in, matters a lot
less.
Anyway, since we're talking about it, let me clarify some of the
differences between Transformational Processing and Scientology.
TP addresses the client at Cause all the time. There isn't the Scn concept
that he can only be considered cause after he has gotten a lot of auditing
and attained a Clear state. TP doesn't have the whole Bridge concept, that
the person got screwed up in the past and now we need to bring him back to
his former glory. TP addresses things in present time and always as cause.
Scn will typically keep a technique constant (the commands of a "process")
and will leave the result (EP, what cognition, what ability regained, what
release) variable. TP aims at the desired result and varies the technique
as necessary to get it. That is 180 degrees different. One can't do both at
the same time.
Scn implies that a person's case is layered into grades and bands of OT
level material. TP works on the person's reality as it is, without
presupposing any particular structure to it.
TP aims at Wholeness. It is about getting the "pieces" of the person
together and aligned with each other. Scn is 180 degree different, mostly
being about getting rid of the stuff that "isn't the thetan".
TP doesn't consider the sub-conscious mind inherently malevolent and alien
to the person. It considers it a mostly well-intentioned part of the person
and works on getting it to work in harmony with the rest of the person. Scn
works on getting rid of the "Reactive Mind".
TP considers past or future incidents as experiences going on elsewhere in
spacetime in an eternal Now. Scn doesn't recognize future incidents and
considers past incidents simply pictures with charge on them that need to
be erased, and doesn't recognize that past events can actually be changed.
Scn is largely about trying to get out of one's body, get out of the
universe, get out of the game, erase the whole thing. TP is about living
more fully, taking responsibility for one's body, one's life, and all the
bigger domains of existence. It is about being more HERE.
"The map is not the territory" is key in TP. It is about adjusting one's
maps so that life works better, always knowing that no map is THE right
one. Scn presents its map AS the territory and doesn't recognize any other
maps.
TP recognizes the wholeness and interconnectedness of all of existence,
working on bringing the person in alignment with All-that-is. Scn, despite
having a word for it (the 8th Dynamic), stays far away from such concepts.
TP works on giving clients tools that they can use on their own. If they do
so between sessions, that is great. Scn makes clients dependent on auditing
sessions and doesn't allow them to do anything like it between formal
sessions.
TP doesn't use a meter, doesn't have a "Start of Session"/"End of Session"
kind of model session, doesn't run rudiments, uses no C/S.
Aside from that, sure, TP takes people through processes and addresses
elements of their lives that might require improvement. But TP doesn't tell
people what those are, the TP facilitator listens to what the person needs
and wants and helps them with that.
TP is, as far as Scientology is concerned, an "other practice". It doesn't
pose as any version of Scientology or any replacement to Scientology.
Scientologists would be likely to have some amount of trouble with TP,
either as clients or facilitators. There are too many fixed concepts of
reality that have been ingrained in Scientology that would collide with the
principles of TP to make it any easy transition.
In the relatively rare case that I take on an ex-scientologist as client, a
considerable about of time would have to be spent in the beginning to
de-program limiting ideas that were part of the Scientology system. Such as
that you can only have gains while in session, that you are inherently
effect, that you are just a little thetan with a lot of bad junk around,
that you can only occupy one viewpoint at a time, that you have to receive
some kind of ready made level to get anywhere.
Similarly with learning TP as a facilitator. A Scientology Auditor is used
to having a big fear of all the things he can do wrong, knowing how much
people will get screwed up if he does it wrong, and he is used to learning
a lot of irrelevant theory, and only getting to the practical part very
late in the program. In TP one starts off with what one can already do
right and improves it from that point on, and one starts applying it right
away.
So, all in all, TP if a fundamentally different subject from Scn, coming
from a quite different place, although you can find many superficial points
of comparison.
- Flemming
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