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Re: Free Zone Association Announcement


From: Oldtimer  <oldtimer@cts.com>
Subject: Re: Free Zone Association Announcement
Date: 1998/07/26
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At 02:18 PM 7/26/98 GMT, you wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:05:55 GMT, in alt.religion.scientology you
>wrote:
 
>>Dear Old Timer,
>> 
>>Wow, that was quite some response!

Why thank you, sir.

>>As you are pretty knowledgeable about what Bernd allegedly did and you
 appear
>>to have some right to sign yourself on behalf of the Freie Zone e. V.
>>Association, I guess you are either Bernd or one of the directors of FZ
e. V.

Now, now, now let's not get carried away and start dubbing in who I may or
may not be. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not Bernd or one of the
directors. I'm one of those types of people that don't like seeing false
hoods put forth, or vital omitted data left out of websites for that
matter. You know, adding the omitted data paints a completely different
picture don't you agree?

What -did- you fellas think? Did you think *you* would announce Hans
Kellerer's website and nothing would be said to correct the incorrect data.
Silly,silly boy. 

>>One thing you conveniently "forgot" to put in your rather lengthy
>>explanation, is whether it is true or not that you pulled off this scam.
>>Guess it was just an inadvertent omission, right?

Read it again. I think the point was well made as to what would cause Bernd
to sign such a C.S.W.

How come you omitted commenting on the actions of the Finance Police in
1982? Do you feel those actions were warranted and the right thing to do?
Suppressive acts of that nature committed by the current church management
at that time won't go away until the the current church management takes
responsibility and makes right their wrongs done to ex-members. What are
your thoughts on that? 

What did you think of the quote from Ron's Journal 38? Are you OSA chaps
the only people left around that haven't heard it wasn't Ron's voice on
that tape? What are you're thoughts on that? Oh, wait a minute, I think I
get it...that's not your purpose? Am I close?

How come you didn't mention anything about Hans Kellerer being the chap
that declared Bill during the time he was ordered to infiltrate the Free
Zone? And while on the subject of Hans Kellerer, would you be so kind as to
tell what his current post in OSA is? Oh, never mind, I'm sure I'll find
out shortly. 

>>Oh by the way, sorry to disappoint you, but I am not Hans Kellerer.

That's okay, we'll just refer to you as 'a guy named Joe'.

So we understand each other [even through I've asked questions], I won't be
responding to anymore to your posts. Ask around and you'll find I don't
react to button pushing and I believe I've made myself clear in this
response to you. But, feel free to say what ever is on your little mind
around here. You guys do so much talking that you end up discrediting
yourselves every single time. Now that's what I call a track record.

Be well, and don't get too blue in the face, it's not good for the blood
pressure,

Old Timer