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Re: Free Zone


From: Joe Harrington  <joeharr@worldnet.att.net> 
Subject: Re: Free Zone
Date: 1998/08/07
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a-j@mailcity.com wrote:
> 
> In article  <35C8F3F8.493@worldnet.att.net>,
>  joeharr@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> > a-j@mailcity.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > In article  <1998080403304200.XAA29096@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > >  inducto@aol.com (Inducto) wrote:
> > > > >On one hand these pages paint a picture of saintliness of Robertson,
> > > > >who considered himself to be "saving the planet" against Marcabians
> > > > >who have supposedly infiltrated every single strata of modern
> > > > >society, including government agencies and press.
> > > > 
> > > > What you're talking about here is the Robertson loyalist faction of the
> > > > Freezone, which I think is mostly european, and hardly representative of
 the
> > > > Freezone as a whole.
> > > > 
> > > Then how do you explain the fact that the content of the US and German
> > > Freezone home pages is exactly the same?  I didn't see any disclaimer
> > > that says they are different or there is some kind of loyalist faction
> > > in Germany that believes something different to the rest.  In fact, the
> > > German Free Zone refers to the US page and vice versa.  Sure there is
> > > an association in Germany, but it is still Free Zone.  It just has the
> > > German spelling of the name i.e. Freie Zone.
> > 
> > Read the entirety of the fza.org site and the discussion section, you
> > will see a wide range of views on Hubbard and Scientology. There is
> > little if any mention of Capt Bill and the Marcabs. I'm not sure how you
> > could say the contents are "exactly the same"???
> > 
> > Because there is a link to other sites does not mean that they are in
> > solidarity with them. The fza.org also has a link to Scientology's web
> > site.
> > 
> > I don't follow your reasoning that they are one in the same? Of course,
> > there are some others who also lump everyone together.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> Joe,
> 
> I stand corrected.  Perhaps the pages are not identical but you must
> admit that there are a hell of a lot of similarities between the two.
> While I agree, to some degree, that just because there is a
> link to other sites it doesn't mean that they are in solidarity, there
> are definite points of solidarity:
> 
> 1) The names are the SAME which leads to the natural assumption that
> they ARE the same.
> 
> 2) That little old granny from Southern California (aka Old Timer)
> answers up on behalf of the German Free Zone.
> 
> To really distinguish themselves from the rest, the Germans should call
> themselves "Robertson Free Zone" or something like that - then idiots
> like me wouldn't automatically lump them altogether.
> 
> A-J


Yes, I agree the generic term "Free Zone" is prone to confusion and
misunderstanding. I do a lot of independent research and auditing geared
toward the alleviation of the adverse effects of Hubbard's "standard
tech", however I reject being classified in a vague "Free Zone"
category.

My problem with the German Free Zone Assn is its apparent inability to
discern and their unwillingness to objectively evaluate the works of
Hubbard and consider constructive criticism of him. Instead they
directly or indirectly promote a conspiracy theory to explain away
Hubbard's failures. I think its high time that the become something more
than a LRH fan club.

Joe